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    she's so cute :heart:
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    (Original post by TheJudge)
    I don;t give a **** about the crown estate. I don;t want to pay for this inbred retarded family.

    I work, i pay taxes and i will for the rest of my life unlike ehre and her **** head family who get helicopters to go to parties in....

    I hate the royal family and they should be removed.i hate retarded people like you who support her.
    Why don't you close that gaping hole in your face and educate yourself. I doubt the apple falls far from the tree in your case, thus I think Britain would be much better off if your family was thrown into the English Channel. Such vile ignorance and viciousness can only be detrimental to this country.

    I'm retarded? When your spelling and grammar doesn't represent the ability of a toddler, come back to me and I might consider taking your juvenile attacks seriously.
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    Charles would be hilarious as King. There's something about that old man...
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    Why are the British never as interesting as the French?
    A revolution would have been greatly beneficial
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    (Original post by Forbidden Fruit)
    Why don't you close that gaping hole in your face and educate yourself. I doubt the apple falls far from the tree in your case, thus I think Britain would be much better off if your family was thrown into the English Channel. Such vile ignorance and viciousness can only be detrimental to this country.

    I'm retarded? When your spelling and grammar doesn't represent the ability of a toddler, come back to me and I might consider taking your juvenile attacks seriously.
    The words 'pot' and 'kettle' spring to mind . . .
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    I think the monarchy is a good thing because it reminds us that deep down and whatever people try to tell you, the country still isn't a meritocracy. When most of our prime ministers (and indeed cabinet ministers) are public schooled, Oxbridge educated men, it seems that 'striking out in favour of meritocracy' by abolishing hereditary peers and the monarchy is a hypocritical whitewash. The country isn't not meritocratic because of hereditary peers and the monarchy, it's not meritocratic because the whole political system fails the poor. If we want to sort it out, sort it out but lets sort it out before we make the grand symbolic gestures and abolish the monarchy. So that they are there to remind us what we have left to do.
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    (Original post by Olivia_Lightbulb)
    Why are the British never as interesting as the French?
    A revolution would have been greatly beneficial
    Because we're are not barbaric, nor do we subscribe to infantile, idealistic beliefs.

    Hopefully, when you hit puberty and emerge from this realm of fantasy, you will realise how childish and nonsensical the idea of a socialist/communist 'revolution' is.
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    (Original post by Olivia_Lightbulb)
    The words 'pot' and 'kettle' spring to mind . . .
    Leave out the word 'ignorance', to suit your own agenda, why don't you? If you're looking for someone who suffers from ignorance and viciousness, look no further than the mirror.

    The English Channel is towards the South, just keep walking and don't stop.
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    (Original post by Forbidden Fruit)
    I can imagine that the people voting no, probably fit into these categories:

    1) Basement-dwelling socialists who never grew up with the love of a grandmother, thus prefer spewing their idealistic diatribe in their tight Che t-shirts.

    2) People who hold more allegiance to some loud mouth, foreign Sheikh than a British national treasure.

    3) Ignorant pinheads who prefer to know who some D-list celebrity is shagging rather than educating themselves in regards to the monarchy, whilst peddling the childish 'i dnt wanna pay my hard earned monies 4 sum1 to live in luxury!11!!'.
    I find some of these responses quite evasive. You are totally dismissing the socialist viewpoint which is simply suggesting that in modern times, British people can survive quite happily without the existence of a Monarch, which only serves the powerful few at the top. Mindless Nationalism isn't a great thing when logical arguments are dismissed as "idealistic diatribe".
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    (Original post by SebCarroll)
    I find some of these responses quite evasive. You are totally dismissing the socialist viewpoint which is simply suggesting that in modern times, British people can survive quite happily without the existence of a Monarch, which only serves the powerful few at the top. Mindless Nationalism isn't a great thing when logical arguments are dismissed as "idealistic diatribe".
    Your argument is quite invalid, as this is not a monarchy debate. It's a nonsensical thread attempting to debate the merits of an elderly woman. Thus, I feel that someone who decides to dislike Elizabeth Windsor is probably just tarnishing her with their blind socialist ideals.
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    (Original post by Forbidden Fruit)
    Leave out the word 'ignorance', to suit your own agenda, why don't you? If you're looking for someone who suffers from ignorance and viciousness, look no further than the mirror.

    The English Channel is towards the South, just keep walking and don't stop.
    This is from someone who hypocritically stated that 'viciousness' is 'detrimental' to England.
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    (Original post by Forbidden Fruit)
    Because we're are not barbaric, nor do we subscribe to infantile, idealistic beliefs.

    Hopefully, when you hit puberty and emerge from this realm of fantasy, you will realise how childish and nonsensical the idea of a socialist/communist 'revolution' is.
    Not only are you spouting your outdated, nationalist right-wing ideologies, you seem to have a very misguided view of socialism. It is far more about democracy and organisation. I don't recall any Old Labour MPs demanding a revolution?
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    (Original post by Forbidden Fruit)
    Because we're are not barbaric, nor do we subscribe to infantile, idealistic beliefs.

    Hopefully, when you hit puberty and emerge from this realm of fantasy, you will realise how childish and nonsensical the idea of a socialist/communist 'revolution' is.
    I refer to the word 'revolution' in relation to the French Revolution. Do you think France is a barbaric country?
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    (Original post by SebCarroll)
    I find some of these responses quite evasive. You are totally dismissing the socialist viewpoint which is simply suggesting that in modern times, British people can survive quite happily without the existence of a Monarch, which only serves the powerful few at the top. Mindless Nationalism isn't a great thing when logical arguments are dismissed as "idealistic diatribe".
    :yes:


    I don't agree with the main arguments in favour of the royal family. Without them, it is unlikely that the country would be negatively impacted by a reduction in tourism, for instance, nor would the economy suffer if there was no royal family to carry out 'public duties'.
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    (Original post by Forbidden Fruit)
    Your argument is quite invalid, as this is not a monarchy debate. It's a nonsensical thread attempting to debate the merits of an elderly woman. Thus, I feel that someone who decides to dislike Elizabeth Windsor is probably just tarnishing her with their blind socialist ideals.
    I love how you completely dismiss other people's views.

    [/sarcasm] :rolleyes:
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    Forbidden Fruit, I understand what you are saying, but the thread has developed into a wider debate on public opinion of the Monarchy. I have also made it clear in a previous post that I too disagree that personal remarks about the Queen herself are inappropriate, and unrelated to a wider debate about the Monarchy itself
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    (Original post by Olivia_Lightbulb)
    I refer to the word 'revolution' in relation to the French Revolution. Do you think France is a barbaric country?
    During the French Revolution, it certainly was. So, we should engage in violence and bloodshed in the hope of a peaceful, socialist utopia in the future? :rofl:

    You're deluded.
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    (Original post by daftndirekt)
    Well she basically sits around and very occasionally has to sign a few pieces of paper to allow a new law to be passed. I think she also has to be asked if the UK can go to war or not.

    P.s dont quote me on this, I am not sure but this has always been my understanding of it
    If you want to know what the Queen actually does, here is the website:

    http://www.royal.gov.uk/LatestNewsan...aysevents.aspx

    The Court Circular lists on a day by day basis what she does. Usualy tehy have to breakit up between monring, afternoon and evening because she's a busy lady. It also tells you what teh others royals do (Princess Anne is considered teh hardest worker).

    Your right on on all of those things. She also appoints the Prime Minister, cabinet (check out, for example, 6th/7th May 2005, just after the election, where it documents how she meets with the new cabinet members). She passes orders in council aswell. Erm, weekly meeting with the PM, she's Supreme Governor of the Church of England (appoints bishops & archbishops), Commander-in-Chief of the military, appoints all judges.
    She does a lot of stuff ^^
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    I have no personal dislike of the Queen herself, merely of what the monarchy represents.
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    (Original post by SebCarroll)
    Forbidden Fruit, I understand what you are saying, but the thread has developed into a wider debate on public opinion of the Monarchy. I have also made it clear in a previous post that I too disagree that personal remarks about the Queen herself are inappropriate, and unrelated to a wider debate about the Monarchy itself
    That means that the thread has gone off-topic, and according to normal TSR practice: should be closed.

    A thread which wishes to discuss whether people like or dislike Gordon Brown wouldn't be allowed to descend into a thread discussing the merits of our political system, and whether it should be transformed or not.

    People are free to make a thread which attempts to debate the monarchy as an institution; however, as I have mentioned several times, this is merely a pointless thread with the premise of discussing the merits of an individual, elderly woman.
 
 
 
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