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    (Original post by Princestia)
    Hi,
    I think I'm gonna take M1 instead of S1 for my 3rd unit of AS level maths from edexcel exam board because S1 seems longer (slightly more content) and slightly more complicated in my opinion (anyone else agree?)

    However, I am not taking AS or A2 in physics but have done GCSE physics (OCR modules 1 to 6).

    Would I still be able to understand the concepts fully of M1 and get a very high grade A (90%+) in the exam with just as much effort was a person taking AS level in physics? I know every person is different and that but I basically mean would I be needing more effort for M1 to get as high as I would have if I was taking AS level physics?

    Also, it would be great to hear from those who have taken both M1 and S1 (maybe if they took M1 in AS year and S1 in A2 year or something?)
    - like comparisons, recommendations on which is easier to understand or has easier questions on the exam generally or which has less work load?

    Thanks
    Of course it is I did. I got 100% and never even seen a Physics A-level book.
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    (Original post by Jonty99)
    Absolutely. The M1 content is harder, I believe, than the mechanics in Physics. Not a problem at all.
    :ditto:

    Things are taught far more rigourously in the mechanics units in A-level Maths than in anything you do in A-level Physics.You do the same topics up to M3 in Physics but in a very superficial manner.

    Having said that , it did help me get my head around stuff when I started my AS in Physics and looked at the same stuff (I'd started M1 early in the summer after my GCSEs).Also , I didn't really like S1 that much when I did it as I found it fiddly and I didn't really get my head around the normal distribution either.
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    (Original post by thetopnotch)
    :shock: Has it changed that much? I did the old syllabus so maybe my exams were easier then :unsure:
    It's the same syllabus, I'm the last year of all the old A-levels. But the maths syllabus isn't changing until 2011(?) anyway. They've just made the papers a lot harder!
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    (Original post by jaz_jaz)
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    its the only topic i've ever just given up on! I actually just bunked the lessons after a while.
    No problem! I hate how all my maths teachers kept saying it was the 'easy' A2 module as well because it's actually an AS module! I've definitely understood much more of C4 than I have of M1!
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    Did M1 this past June, thought it was fine. Scored quite highly (I think... I hope), so it's definitely possible!
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    (Original post by angelmxxx)
    It's the same syllabus, I'm the last year of all the old A-levels. But the maths syllabus isn't changing until 2011(?) anyway. They've just made the papers a lot harder!
    Ah right I see, we were told this would happen by our school. According to our teachers they have a load of questions which they write and then they pick and choose some for each exam year. Apparently because the syllabus is changing they tend to pick out the hardest questions they have left and put them in the papers near then end (I don't know how true this is but it could be one explanation for the papers being harder).

    Also if the papers are much harder and all the students find the paper harder then the grade boundaries will be lower too.
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    most people find m1 harder although you did get those odd people who just seem to crack m1 and easily score 95+ on it.

    s1 it is easier to make mistakes, although the majority find it easier.
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    I really hope so!! (with ocr not edexcel but anyway...)
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    M1 isn't bad, but for some it takes a while to get your head around it.

    And, in my opinion, M1 assists Physics Mechanics (at AS), not the other way round.

    So the answer is yes.
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    i'd say both M1 and S1 are equal difficulty, i preferred M1, but i did do physics and want to do mechanical engineering at uni
    i'd say it helps alot having physics AS but its not going to disadvatage you if you didn't have it
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    You can certainly do well in M1 without Physics. A-Levels are designed such that anyone studying the subject can do well regardless of what other subjects they happen to have chosen.
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    My teacher always told us that S1 is harder than M1? Lol, I think she just doesn't like teaching S1. XD Anyway, I forgot to mention I didn't do Physics at AS and thought it was pretty straightforward. I mean, it's basically just the Mechanics from the Add Maths GCSE, right? Ironically, I was bad at that and only swept through the paper thanks to it being paired with statistics! lol
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    yes it is possible
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    Well it's definitely possible, I got A in M1 without even having GCSE physics, but the AS physics would help a little.
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    are you actually asking if it's possible?
    I don't get those sort of threads because the answer is always going to be: yes - it is possible.
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    Yes it is possible. :yy:

    Physics doesn't help much with cracking M1 tbh. If anything (and in my experience), its rather the other way round as mechanics questions in physics aren't as difficult. :yep:
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    (Original post by Princestia)
    Hi,
    I think I'm gonna take M1 instead of S1 for my 3rd unit of AS level maths from edexcel exam board because S1 seems longer (slightly more content) and slightly more complicated in my opinion (anyone else agree?)

    However, I am not taking AS or A2 in physics but have done GCSE physics (OCR modules 1 to 6).

    Would I still be able to understand the concepts fully of M1 and get a very high grade A (90%+) in the exam with just as much effort was a person taking AS level in physics? I know every person is different and that but I basically mean would I be needing more effort for M1 to get as high as I would have if I was taking AS level physics?

    Also, it would be great to hear from those who have taken both M1 and S1 (maybe if they took M1 in AS year and S1 in A2 year or something?)
    - like comparisons, recommendations on which is easier to understand or has easier questions on the exam generally or which has less work load?

    Thanks

    EDIT:// Thanks so much everyone for all the responses I'm glad to know AS physics isn't necessary for M1. I am also wondering now whether S1 or M1 is more based on the books, etc. Like some exam papers are based on more natural talent rather than learning it. E.g. for example applying the knowledge more. I want to choose from M1 or S1 the one that where if you work hard and learn everything you'll easily get a high A whereas some exams, you can work as hard as u want but the exam is more general or dependant on your application of what you learn a lot..

    Hope that makes sense :P
    Thanks x
    the hell are you on about there :p: ? work hard enough and youll get the grade. s1 is quite boring number crunching and has stupid wording if thats what you mean whereas mechanics is more applying a few formulas, but you need to be able to identify whats going on in the situation.. depends more on what youd enjoy

    you really dont need AS physics, the stuff in M1 is just recap of equations in physics/vice versa
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    I cocked up with 79/100. It was such a hard paper in Jan.
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    for sure man

    You can be a great math-mechanic without having studied AS Physics......
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    (Original post by Paul McGann)
    I cocked up with 79/100. It was such a hard paper in Jan.
    That paper was INSANE! :coma:

    But no need to dwell on the past. I hear the June 2009 paper was quite hard too. Oh dear. :indiff:
 
 
 
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