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    (Original post by missaphrodite)
    Erm, all animals.
    I do not like the human race.
    We use animals as tools, we exploit them, we get them involved in our sick pleasures. Execution is one of the things that humans like to do to each other.
    Animals, like children, are innocent. But most adults...ugh.
    Yet, a lion would soon bite your face off, given the chance.
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    (Original post by Lefty Leo)
    That's mostly because we are superior enough to amass the knowledge and technology to do it! :p:
    Well, I wish we weren't.
    Unlike OP, I pretty much lost faith in humanity a while ago.
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    (Original post by missaphrodite)
    Well, I wish we weren't.
    Unlike OP, I pretty much lost faith in humanity a while ago.
    Unlike the animal world, humanity is ever progressing! We are becoming nicer, kinder, smarter, safer, less violent, less environmentally damaging etc etc etc by the day. The animal world sticks to survival of the fittest
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    (Original post by Forbidden Fruit)
    Yet, a lion would soon bite your face off, given the chance.
    Yup, but that's natural, although, it probably wouldn't happen actually. Lions attacking humans is pretty rare :p:
    Humans are 'blessed' with intelligence, which means that we can choose not to kill/eat/torture/whatever animals and manage to survive perfectly healthily without doing so. I think the intelligent choice is to become vegetarian, and before you say anything, I'm perfectly healthy and meet all my protein needs, etc etc.

    But let's not turn this into a debate about vegetarianism :cool:
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    (Original post by Lefty Leo)
    Unlike the animal world, humanity is ever progressing! We are becoming nicer, kinder, smarter, safer, less violent, less environmentally damaging etc etc etc by the day. The animal world sticks to survival of the fittest
    We are becoming more evil, selfish, thoughtless, more stupid and more violent. You cannot seriously believe otherwise.
    But oh good, we're reducing carbon emissions :rolleyes:
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    Animals are stupid and I don't care if they die. I just hate seeing things in pain.
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    (Original post by missaphrodite)
    We are becoming more evil, selfish, thoughtless, more stupid and more violent. You cannot seriously believe otherwise.
    But oh good, we're reducing carbon emissions :rolleyes:
    No we're not! The history of humanity is that of increasing altruism and continuing liberalism. I do seriously believe this

    Look at evil. 400 years ago burning women at the statecraft was commonplace. Today such attitudes are laughed at. Beating children was the norm. Laughed at today. Religion was the norm. Dismissed today. Women being stuck to the house (:wink2:) was the norm, today they are expected to be equal partners. "Evil" is progressively weakening!

    We aren't becoming more thoughtless, stupid, or violent; the steadily increasing numbers of atheists, steadily reducing wars, increasing strength of "bleeding heart" liberals the world over, all point to increasing thoughtfulness, less stupidity, and less violence!
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    (Original post by Lefty Leo)
    No we're not! The history of humanity is that of increasing altruism and continuing liberalism. I do seriously believe this

    Look at evil. 400 years ago burning women at the statecraft was commonplace. Today such attitudes are laughed at. Beating children was the norm. Laughed at today. Religion was the norm. Dismissed today. Women being stuck to the house (:wink2:) was the norm, today they are expected to be equal partners. "Evil" is progressively weakening!

    We aren't becoming more thoughtless, stupid, or violent; the steadily increasing numbers of atheists, steadily reducing wars, increasing strength of "bleeding heart" liberals the world over, all point to increasing thoughtfulness, less stupidity, and less violence!
    Meh. I disagree. And I'm far too tired to explain why. But yeah, read up on the Taliban, the Iraq war (because of oil) and Guantanamo Bay, to get you started. We just find less obvious ways of being evil, is all.
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    (Original post by missaphrodite)
    Meh. I disagree. And I'm far too tired to explain why. But yeah, read up on the Taliban, the Iraq war (because of oil) and Guantanamo Bay, to get you started. We just find less obvious ways of being evil, is all.
    The taliban are exactly what humans like me fight against. They are animals, nothing more. And the Republicans aren't exactly much better! Tiredness is no excuse missy! :naughty:
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    (Original post by missaphrodite)
    I just don't value the life of myself, or of any human to be more important than the life of an animal's, that is one of the reasons why I don't eat meat. A life is a life. I hate that humans think they're superior beings, yet we're destroying the planet, unlike any other species has managed to do before :rolleyes: well done us.
    but what is the lion doing when he chases gazelles and eats them. is he superior???? no, he is just surviving. if we werent so developed (in relative terms to other species on this planet) it may be impossible for to survive without animal meat. i dont know maybe it may be, but i doubt it.
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    I don't understand? Were you watching a weird porno fetish film? =S
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    Wait, can someone explain to me what the Dagestan Massacre is?
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    (Original post by bananaslug77)
    Wait, can someone explain to me what the Dagestan Massacre is?
    A bunch of Chechen soliders cutting the heads off of 6 young russian soldiers. We can't post links to things like that so don't ask. Google is your friend though.
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    One of my lecturers at NTU was an expert on Chechnia. Now that is one seriously ****** up part of the world, the wars surrounding the collapse of empires always are.


    Hmm, I'm sure someone must already have written a book on the comparative messiness of the fall of Rome, the collapse of centralised power in China in the 19th century, the withdrawal from Empire(s) of the European powers in the later half of the 20th century, and the collapse of the Soviet Empire in the 90's... It would make an interesting read I'd say, anyone know of such a book?


    PS. Read Leviathan by Hobbes, full of some great ideas...
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    (Original post by J-E-N-O-V-A)
    A bunch of Chechen soliders cutting the heads off of 6 young russian soldiers. We can't post links to things like that so don't ask. Google is your friend though.
    I didn't ask. I wanted to know what it was, not where I can find it. There is a difference.

    That sounds disgusting and I won't be looking for that
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    Im not losing faith in humanity

    i had sod all in it to begin with and lost what i had years ago
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    Coming on TSR only makes you look further faith in humanity. Just look around TSR. :nopity:
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    Misanthropy is spreading....

    ....excellent....
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    I saw a website that sold dvds of crush porn once, they sold custom dvds too where clients could ask for particular animals. I sent their details to directaction.info and they were DDOSed into the ground and in the end had to resort to abandoning the domain. I hope the massively high bandwidth costs that resulted from the attack put them out of business.

    That porn where people crush animals is vile, I have no reservations about partaking in direct action against the websites that distribute it.

    People do a lot of sickening things in the world, a lot of senseless torture and killings. How people can make and distribute videos that contain child abuse, animal cruelty, or other general things like real life assaults is totally beyond comprehension.
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    (Original post by fire2burn)
    I saw a website that sold dvds of crush porn once, they sold custom dvds too where clients could ask for particular animals. I sent their details to directaction.info and they were DDOSed into the ground and in the end had to resort to abandoning the domain. I hope the massively high bandwidth costs that resulted from the attack put them out of business.

    That porn where people crush animals is vile, I have no reservations about partaking in direct action against the websites that distribute it.
    Oh you mean like that japanese woman crushing a cat with her heels?
 
 
 
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