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    (Original post by Steeps)
    Hold for now until the changes in student finance are complete, at the current rate students are paying 3k+ a year for their fees however if you can self support yourself they're looking at canning the fees if you do not require a loan. This could come into place as soon as next year, so the extra year at work plus saving 10k on fees would be a huge financial benefit, not to mention also some time to research building up a portfolio and potential employers to see if you could skip uni completely and go straight into work.
    This is a very good point which I havent considered. I'll have to look into this further.

    In terms of building a portfolio I have one which I have gained work from previously, but not stable work. I could skip uni and go straight into it but like I said previously maybe not earn a stable income to survive. Plus I feel the benefit of university would enable me to educate myself in other areas on photography than my specialism.
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    (Original post by turn_the_page_day_by_day)
    Having worked for the past 3 years I've been very successful in my current employment. Starting on a wage of £16kpa + bonus I've increased this now to £24kpa + bonus (in the last tax year earning £29450).

    I've decided to leave this employment to begin studying a degree in Photography in September. The pure reason behind this is that the job I do now, albeit very well paid is not my prefered career, whereas being a Photojournalist is something I have always dreamed of doing.

    Am I crazy for leaving a £30kpa job in the current climate to study and live on less than £80pw?

    Opinions please!
    no mate your in the same position as me. earning 25-30k but i hate the job so whats the point?

    decided im going to stop liviing for the wknd and get a job that i will enjoy, once i complete my degree.

    besides 30k is only bit more than average. qualified you may earn more depending on what you want to do and you will have more options with a degree.
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    (Original post by Svenjamin)
    Ask people's opinions, then discredit everyone for not possibly being able to understand... smooth.

    If you understand the risks and still want to do it, do it. But photography isn't really a steady career plan, and could be considered career suicide in this economic climate.
    Sorry if this is the way it has come across. I am asking peoples opinions but maybe moreso opinions of people who are in this situation or have been previously oppose to those who havent. I appreciate everyones opinions though as many are valid.

    I understand the risks and expect to come out of university earning half the wage I do now but I will be happier in terms of my working lifestyle.

    Call it last minute doubts.
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    I'd work one more year and save up as much as I could for Uni and the years after. Go for it! Good luck! :yy:
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    (Original post by jesty)
    no mate your in the same position as me. earning 25-30k but i hate the job so whats the point?

    decided im going to stop liviing for the wknd and get a job that i will enjoy, once i complete my degree.

    besides 30k is only bit more than average. qualified you may earn more depending on what you want to do and you will have more options with a degree.
    This is where I am, working to live for the weekend.
    I guess at the end of this I want to be living to work more than working to live. If that makes sense?
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    (Original post by rakata)
    Let the recession do its thing or at least build up some savings before leaving your job!
    This would be my advice aswell. Stay in your job till the recession is over and you have some money saved, then do your photography course.
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    (Original post by Quite tall mike)
    This would be my advice aswell. Stay in your job till the recession is over and you have some money saved, then do your photography course.
    Perhaps I should have put this in my original post, I have saved and have money to cover my tuition fees. I plan to gain employment part time to cover my living costs as much as posible to reduce my indebtness at the end of university.
    I also have savings in order to assist my future in terms of buying a property or setting up a business.
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    (Original post by turn_the_page_day_by_day)
    Explain why I do not need a photography degree to succeed in something I am passionate about? And how studying English would make me successful in Photography?

    This isnt a thread to debate my choice of career.

    Don't in this economic climate? I work in the financial industry and in realism I could potentially loose my job tomorrow or could gain further income. It's not stable at all...
    Have you ever worked full time out of interest? As in for a period of 1 year +
    Your passionate about it which is exactly why you can succeed without a degree. With photography its mostly about practice, not theory (albeit still important). English would help you go into journalism, although granted I'm not sure if it would help to branch out into photojournalism.

    No I haven't but I know from experience that its damn hard to get work at the moment in any area. As you've admited, your lucky to even have a well paid job, so why give it up?

    Can I ask what your background is with regards to photography, why the interest, what have you done up till now to nurture that interest?
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    (Original post by turn_the_page_day_by_day)
    And you managed to keep your glanza just saw your post in another thread... I'm managing to keep my ibiza cupra turbo...

    Money is nothing to me, I'd rather earn £15kpa as a photographer working 70 hours a week than the 35 hours I do now for double the money.

    I think the majority of people posting on here have never worked full time and earnt this kind of money so it is very hard to judge. Also perhaps a few people have never worked full time for 3 years in a job they dont enjoy.
    Too right mate! I worked fulltime for just over a year, was supposed to be a gap year but inevitably got carried away. Brother sat me down and said 'why the fcuk you working fulltime when you can still be in education, your wasting time'. I then woke from my terminal slumber and pursued forward. Keeping the motor too mate, no boost, no buzz!

    EDIT: Working fulltime got to me in the end, working with old retiring crocks. The place wasn't just me, got used to the money which meant I was spending on unnecessary crap too.
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    (Original post by turn_the_page_day_by_day)
    Perhaps I should have put this in my original post, I have saved and have money to cover my tuition fees. I plan to gain employment part time to cover my living costs as much as posible to reduce my indebtness at the end of university.
    I also have savings in order to assist my future in terms of buying a property or setting up a business.
    Ah ok, well go for it! Take the opportunity to do something that you obviously have a passion for whilst its here, you may not get the chance to do it again.
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    (Original post by Ewan)
    Your passionate about it which is exactly why you can succeed without a degree. With photography its mostly about practice, not theory (albeit still important). English would help you go into journalism, although granted I'm not sure if it would help to branch out into photojournalism.

    No I haven't but I know from experience that its damn hard to get work at the moment in any area. As you've admited, your lucky to even have a well paid job, so why give it up?

    Can I ask what your background is with regards to photography, why the interest, what have you done up till now to nurture that interest?
    Completely agree photography is about practice and also education of practice. You never learn completely from personal experience unless you have a mentor. This is why I see university a benefit. Aswell I want to branch into other areas on photography which maybe I couldn't from personal experience and especially whilst working due to time constraints.

    Why give it up? I look at it more this way, why stay in a job I hate? I dont know what you enjoy, but imagine doing a job in a field you dislike, then imagine doing that job for the rest of your life... I think you'd agree that you'd want to follow your dream.

    I've always been interested in photography from a very young age. From the age of about 12 (now 21 soon to be 22) I've carried a camera with me everywhere documenting everything of interest.
    Up to now like I stated before I have worked on a few occasions for an agency in London on a freelance basis. Earning pitance.
    I spend many weekends in London also documenting protests and other conflicts, again trying to sell my work to agencies, sometimes with success sometimes without.
    I've earnt money doing wedding photography although this is an area which bores the life out of me and will attempt to continue whilst studying simply as a means of income.

    If you're trying to determine how serious I am about Photography as a subject then as you probably can see, I'm 110% commited and it pretty much rules my spare time outside of work.
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    (Original post by AdeelAhmad)
    Too right mate! I worked fulltime for just over a year, was supposed to be a gap year but inevitably got carried away. Brother sat me down and said 'why the fcuk you working fulltime when you can still be in education, your wasting time'. I then woke from my terminal slumber and pursued forward. Keeping the motor too mate, no boost, no buzz!

    EDIT: Working fulltime got to me in the end, working with old retiring crocks. The place wasn't just me, got used to the money which meant I was spending on unnecessary crap too.
    We are in identical situations really. Other than I realised for myself without someone telling me. Many people have told me not to give up my job.

    My life today isnt what I want my life to be in 5, 10, even 45 years (when I will realistically be retiring)

    Plus good on you, I agree no boost no buzz ha.
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    (Original post by turn_the_page_day_by_day)
    We are in identical situations really. Other than I realised for myself without someone telling me. Many people have told me not to give up my job.

    My life today isnt what I want my life to be in 5, 10, even 45 years (when I will realistically be retiring)

    Plus good on you, I agree no boost no buzz ha.
    Best of luck in photography too mate, I have a bridge camera so thats an instant fail. Lol.

    EDIT: **** your a Scorpio and also 21 nigh on same situation:eek:
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    Well you learn from practice and being critical of your work. It helps if you have others to be critical too, and you don't need to go to university for this. There are plenty of short courses, night schools which can provide this. However you've suggested part-time isn't an option which leads me to believe your job is quite intensive?

    Personally I agree with you, if you really do hate it give it up. However, not unless your sure you have enough money for your future. You've only been working there 3 years, so you really can't of saved up that much, definitely not enough to pay for university outright. It depends if you think working for longer will benefit you later by saving more money.
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    (Original post by Ewan)
    Well you learn from practice and being critical of your work. It helps if you have others to be critical too, and you don't need to go to university for this. There are plenty of short courses, night schools which can provide this. However you've suggested part-time isn't an option which leads me to believe your job is quite intensive?

    Personally I agree with you, if you really do hate it give it up. However, not unless your sure you have enough money for your future. You've only been working there 3 years, so you really can't of saved up that much, definitely not enough to pay for university outright. It depends if you think working for longer will benefit you later by saving more money.
    Yes my current job is very intense, it simply wouldnt be practical to study in the evening and I wouldnt be able to move to part time. I've looked at all these options.

    I agree that personal development and critical analysis is very important but guidance is important too.

    Realistically I couldnt afford to give up work and try and make it alone, just wouldn't happen. Also I couldnt afford to give up work and personally develop my skills with no income. University offers funding, yes it has to be repaid but will offer me the oportunity to study and develop whilst being financially sound.

    I have enough money to pay for unversity outright yes, although I wont be paying outright for university. I will pay my tuition fees and take a loan for living costs (although I will try earn as much as possible through part time work and wedding photography jobs) to reduce this indebtness. I choice to do this so that I will still have financial backing for my future to either put into a business or as a deposit for a house.
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    (Original post by Nick_000)
    I wouldn't leave 30K a year for a photography course...
    Same..Never..Do it as a hobby..don't need a degree for it just a portfolio
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    (Original post by cowsgoquack)
    Yes you are crazy. You don't need a photography degree.

    Sure if you are already really good at it, but most people aren't born with the natural talent.
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    (Original post by turn_the_page_day_by_day)
    Having worked for the past 3 years I've been very successful in my current employment. Starting on a wage of £16kpa + bonus I've increased this now to £24kpa + bonus (in the last tax year earning £29450).

    I've decided to leave this employment to begin studying a degree in Photography in September. The pure reason behind this is that the job I do now, albeit very well paid is not my prefered career, whereas being a Photojournalist is something I have always dreamed of doing.

    Am I crazy for leaving a £30kpa job in the current climate to study and live on less than £80pw?

    Opinions please!
    well at least youve earned some money ready to keep you going. do what youve always wanted to do. but is there anyway you can fit the course around your work i.e. a four year sandwich course as opposed to a three year full time course? or longer if necessary
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    Take out all possible loans you can, by this I mean income assessed loans for living expenses & tuition fees. Don't pay for it yourself, your better off putting the money you've saved into a high interest account I think? I mean the interest you gain will be greater than the cost of the interest on the loan. Plus its better to have that fast cash and make use of the low interest loans the government provides.
 
 
 
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