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Socialists are a dying breed in the UK watch

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    OP, whats the bad news?
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    I could agree with Fukuyama and take liberal-capitalist democracy as the last form of government in human history and indeed in Britain but something tells me socialism is not dead yet. Nevertheless I think socialism is dying because the 'man' has realised that without inequality people do not strive and entrepreneurship dies; equality eliminates both the carrot and the stick. Socialism makes everyone poor not rich.
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    (Original post by Smack)
    But why should we be equal when we are clearly not all equally hard working? I know first hand how damn lazy some segments of the population are, having lived in a council estate for 14 years.

    And why the hell is it the 'moral right' of the people to control such industries? I'd much rather people who know what they are doing run them with competition of other such people to best ensure the consumer gets the best price.

    In short, you're a socialist because you are ideology over realism. When you go out to the real world and have to earn a living you will be pissed off if the lazy bum that doesn't have a job or only a minimal skilled job is earning a very similar wage to yourself despite the fact that you have a degree or other higher education qualification, which you had to work damned hard for.
    To be the devil's advocate, why exactly does unskilled work mean less effort, or make you a lazy bum? I work bloody hard at my temporary job and I'm paid minimum wage- I'm 100% sure that many, many people work less hard for more money.
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    (Original post by Adorno)
    Well ... if you look at Latin America, then you might regret saying what you did. In Nova Scotia, for example, they recently elected the New Democratic Party to power in the Provincial Legislature - the NDP are social democrats in the same vein as the SDP or PSOE and have roots in socialist movements of the 1920s.
    Nova Scotia is a province of Canada, and the Nova Scotia NDP are quite firmly part of the neoliberal consensus (one of the key parts of their campaign was criticising the outgoing PC's profligate public spending!).
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    I disagree. Socialist principles fuel the BNP.
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    (Original post by Gremlins)
    Nova Scotia is a province of Canada, and the Nova Scotia NDP are quite firmly part of the neoliberal consensus (one of the key parts of their campaign was criticising the outgoing PC's profligate public spending!).
    Economics isn't everything. And besides, you have to take them as they are within the structure of the country. Just because you, as a European, don't feel they are socialist enough doesn't mean that in Canada they aren't recognised as being far more "socialist" than the Liberals or the Tories. Just look at where the NDP gets its core vote from: Industrial Cape Breton (the former coalfield) and metro Halifax - students and also some quite poor residents in the northend of downtown. And you misrepresent the NDP ever so slightly, in the budgets prior to the election, the NDP supported the PC's spending plans over the Liberal criticisms. Just because criticising it was electorally useful, doesn't mean that inside Province House they hadn't been supporting the broad public spending.

    And, I don't need to be reminded where Nova Scotia is ... having lived there, thanks.
 
 
 
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