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    Only the intelligent ones should get to vote. The government should ask schools to select a certain number of pupils depending on the schools size who they think should vote and register them.
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    (Original post by Clubber Lang)
    voting should be restricted from mongs, not opening it up to more mongs.
    Yeah lol.

    In my personal experience, at the age of 16 a LOT of my friends and classmates were talking about voting in an imbecilic manner and suggested voting for the most extreme parties, including my close friend wanting to vote for the BNP.

    Now we are all almost 18, most people's extreme views have been subdued a bit due to a natural rise in maturity and an increased awareness of proposed policies and manifestos.

    Granted, many people are ready to vote at 16 and a lot will never be sensible enough to vote, but we have to suit the majority. I mean, I was ready to drive aged 10 but they still didn't let me...
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    I would only support lowering it to 16 if some kind of test could be done to guage their understanding of politics (and I think this test should be done by everybody, not only the 16 year olds) - because maybe at that age they might be influenced by extremists such as the BNP.

    Though of course there is the huge problem of what should be asked in these tests, because obviously they can't be biased in the slightest bit. In theory it could be abused massively and stop anybody voting if they disagree with the party that's currently in power: so that's a difficult issue.

    As for prisoners, I think that if they're of a stable mind, i.e. not a weird psychopath who loves killing sprees, they should be able to vote. Maybe all those innocent people who are in prison for prostitution, drugs etc unfairly would add some much needed social liberalism to this country.
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    Look. All these people saying "we shouldn't do this because they may vote for so and so party", "Socialists will be voted into parliament", "more votes for the BNP" etc. shouldn't be supporting this notion at all really. If they base their advocacy of electoral reform on their desired outcome then it's making democracy a means to an end. This shouldn't be the case. Democracy should be the only issue here.
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    Yes to both, old enough to die for your country, old enough to vote about the running of the country.
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    No, they would all vote socialist or whichever party gives out free Che t-shirts.
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    So what if people aren't 'mature enough' at that age? From the day you're able to pay taxes you should have a say in how they're spent.
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    (Original post by vintage_007)
    The only plausible solution I've come up with is that everyone, regardless of age, should have to take an exam on British politics in order to earn their right to vote. That way, people couldn't be deemed immature, unconcerned or unintelligent. And people also couldn't say that others voted for the wrong reason, or simply 'because they can'.
    What a lovely oppressive Soviet state that sounds like :/

    Only members of the political elite can vote.

    You'll take an examination in this otherwise despite being a citizen of the nation you'll loose you rights to have a say in how the country is run? No thanks. Sounds like a fantastic way to reduce voter turn out even further.
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    16+ should be allowed to vote.

    All prisoners should not be given the vote while they are incarcerated.

    Only non-violent offenders, after their release, should have their right.
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    Just want to say that BBC 3 thing was great =], love the way its ignited this banter

    I think it's totally ridiculous that people are arguing that 16 year olds should not have the vote because they would be pro-Socialist and BNP yada yada yada. Pissed off u/e workers are just as likely to vote extreme.

    Some argue that when people reach voting age, that some of the smoke from one of those 18 candles gives them "maturity". Since when is voting about maturity? The right to vote is a freedom,one that women acquired only recently in our long history, who supposedly were born with 'more feeble minds.'

    Are the youth educated enough about politics?

    Let's turn it around. Are adults educated enough about politics? Look at recent BNP ratings and see for yourself.
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    Yes to both.
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    Well, I'm not sure, part of me wants to say yes but another part wants to say no. Whilst 16 year olds can die for their country, and do pay taxes, they don't pay as much tax as the middle aged 40 grand a year worker with several cars, a mortgage, etc etc. They don't contribute as much as other taxpayers - so why allow them to have an equal amount of say as someone where a change in government could have a huge impact on their wealth/standard of living, and only a minor one on the young person. Some 16 year olds would only pay indirect taxes, and may focus their work on studying rather than working too, and as far as I'm aware the majority of 16 year olds still live with their parents - where they actually don't pay the taxes, and don't pay the bills, and actually hang around getting wasted etc. Their knowledge of political parties may still be very little; as the only true way to know what a party does is to experienc eit through your life, everyone who tries to teach it you will either lie or give serious biased opinions on it.

    By living through years of being udner different parties, older citizens will have a much greater knowledge in what that party stands for. 16 year olds on the other hand may only vote for labour because of EMA, for example, and don't give a **** about their policies on taxation, public spending etc. What I guess I'm trying to say is they won't have as good a knowledge or opinion as an older person, and yet they make up over one and a half million of the population - an easy target for minority parties to target and manipulate through propaganda etc.

    I guess although some 16 and 17 year olds know fully well what each party stands for, without being taught by a biased source, the majority don't, and they may still vote anyway, for the simple fact they can. It should be kept to adults in my opinion, I just have this idea of all these ignorant teens being manipulated by some crap party saying "we'll give every 16 year old £10 every day, and open up jobs just for young people" followed by in small print "p.s we'll kick every non-white person and every blonde haired female out of this country".
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    [QUOTE=Ben F]Well, I'm not sure, part of me wants to say yes but another part wants to say no. Whilst 16 year olds can die for their country, and do pay taxes, they don't pay as much tax as the middle aged 40 grand a year worker with several cars, a mortgage, etc etc. They don't contribute as much as other taxpayers - so why allow them to have an equal amount of say

    So your basically saying that they shouldnt have the vote because they likely to not earn as much money
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    I just have this idea of all these ignorant teens being manipulated by some crap party saying "we'll give every 16 year old £10 every day, and open up jobs just for young people"

    A crap party in your eyes may be a good one to others. Its about giving people what they want, not you saying what you think they should have.
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    No, I think you should be able to vote only at 18, when you become an adult. Most people don't have the slightest idea about politics at that age but the following two years often sees a dramatic difference - talking out of personal experience.

    This considered, I also think that you shouldn't pay taxes 'till 18.
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    I think voting age should be raised to 21, most people at 18 still don't have a clue.
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    Prisoners should have no right to vote. They broke the laws of the land they should not have a say in how it is governed. For the rest voting should be compulsary with an option for "none of the above" on the paper. I would only support the age being lowered to 16 if the system was taught in schools pre-gcse.
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    A lot of people's arguments who have posted here can be summarised, "16 year olds don't know enough about politics". First off, I don't see how the virtue of age helps you understand anything more about politics. Secondly, if the problem is education then we should have politics lessons in our schools and helpful impartial sources of information in voting times. A lack of access to education and information is the problem here, not age.

    Another argument follows that as idealistic young people, the new voters would predominantly vote left-wing because they are liberal and idealistic. Similarly, old people predominantly vote right-wing because they are conservative and sceptical - no one would take the vote off our OAPs though, would they?

    In my opinion this boils down to the fact 16 year olds can legally work, pay tax and raise a family. Therefore, they should get the vote - you can't have it both ways.
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    (Original post by JW92)
    A lot of people's arguments who have posted here can be summarised, "16 year olds don't know enough about politics". First off, I don't see how the virtue of age helps you understand anything more about politics. Secondly, if the problem is education then we should have politics lessons in our schools and helpful impartial sources of information in voting times. A lack of access to education and information is the problem here, not age.

    Another argument follows that as idealistic young people, the new voters would predominantly vote left-wing because they are liberal and idealistic. Similarly, old people predominantly vote right-wing because they are conservative and sceptical - no one would take the vote off our OAPs though, would they?

    In my opinion this boils down to the fact 16 year olds can legally work, pay tax and raise a family. Therefore, they should get the vote - you can't have it both ways.
    i agree!

    scrap RE and bang in a little politics. At least we know there is a government!
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    (Original post by JW92)
    Secondly, if the problem is education then we should have politics lessons in our schools and helpful impartial sources of information in voting times. A lack of access to education and information is the problem here, not age.
    The government run schools. This is a pretty large problem - the government shouldn't be telling people what to think about their own policies as part of the national curriculum.

    With the internet, your statement that there is a lack of access to information can't be supported. If people are at all interested, the information is there. Spoon-feeding people who just aren't interested isn't going to help.
 
 
 
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