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    (Original post by hannah_dru)
    as I heard the fee can be massive. But it's up to you of course.
    The average fine each year for license evasion is the cost of the license itself.
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    but how would they know i am watching football streaming for example? surely i can just delete my history/cookies etc and then they can't prove anything?
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    (Original post by Reue)
    The average fine each year for license evasion is the cost of the licebse itself.
    which is??

    i heard somewhere you get fined like 1,000!?
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    (Original post by Reue)
    The average fine each year for license evasion is the cost of the license itself.
    Is it? I read £1000 somewhere as well I think but I may be wrong. I'd rather pay £142.50 in the first place then.
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    (Original post by hannah_dru)
    Is it? I read £1000 somewhere as well I think but I may be wrong. I'd rather pay £142.50 in the first place then.
    £1000 is the maximum fine.

    Give me a minute, I'll find you the source.
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    (Original post by Reue)
    £1000 is the maximum fine.

    Give me a minute, I'll find you the source.
    Ah ok. What a nightmare!
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    (Original post by FM08)
    which is??

    i heard somewhere you get fined like 1,000!?
    (Original post by hannah_dru)
    Is it? I read £1000 somewhere as well I think but I may be wrong. I'd rather pay £142.50 in the first place then.


    http://www.publications.parliament.u...90225w0020.htm
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    so if i don't watch any sort of tv on it, no footie or tvcatchup.com I don't need one at all??
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    (Original post by FM08)
    so if i don't watch any sort of tv on it, no footie or tvcatchup.com I don't need one at all??
    You only need a license for a computer if you are using it to recieve live television streams.
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    (Original post by DougLTFC)
    You'll be too busy drowning in clunge to worry about porn, apparently. :rolleyes:
    Sounds like someones being a bit too hopeful! :p:
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    (Original post by FM08)
    but how would they know i am watching football streaming for example? surely i can just delete my history/cookies etc and then they can't prove anything?
    if you use a tv tuner card like i do, they'll only know by being physically able to access and analyse your computer

    if you use internet streaming services, then the isp (whether you're on the uni network or not) will log and cache details of every single website you visit, and if tv licensing suspect that you are using them (which they will if you tell them you don't need one and then don't let them in to prove it), they can ask your ISP to provide them with details of when you might have accessed certain websites, but it is up to your ISP to provide this unless TV licensing gain complicated legal documentation

    Frankly the chances are low, but don't just assume you won't be caught

    and no, if you aren't watching tv at it's broadcast, which INCLUDES recording it, you don't need a license

    you DO need a license if you're watching or recording any live tv, even if it's not a BBC channel

    Yes, the maximum fine is £1000 - you'll get 7 or 8 letters over the first term telling you this if you don't buy a license or tell them you don't need one!
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    just read somewhere that if you don't plug the laptop in and just use it portably, you're fine, is this so?
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    it's a sticky and quite odd situation

    technically, if yoru laptop is running on it's own internal battery and isn't connected to an external aerial, you can use your parents' tv license

    it's difficult to define what an external aerial is though - i consider it to be a permanent aerial fitted to the buliding, but some people might consider that a plug-in portable aerial would go under this classification, which would exclude pretty much every portable aerial that can be used with tv tuner cards

    but yeah, you can argue that and you might get away with it as long as you don't use tv too much

    really, it's just a case of how far do you think you can "bend" the exemptions to the rules
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    well i'll just do that then, not paying £140 odd for some bloody license!
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    lol, ok...can't say i wouldn't do the same if it weren't for iplayer etc. removing the need for live tv...
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    (Original post by tomtom:))
    Sounds like someones being a bit too hopeful! :p:
    Haha! Mate, it's all i'm going to Uni for, **** the degree i just want some pussy!*

    *This is a joke, so please, nobody start lecturing me!
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    If your laptop isnt plugged in you dont need a licence, like someone said. Presuming you have a TV licence at home of course...

    But - the inspectors have no legal right to enter your room. In Aston its highly unlikely they'll be able to get into the tower blocks and to your flat anyway, so I doubt they'd be banging on your door. If they do come simply tell them its not a convenient time for you and dont let them in. If you want, tell them that you dont require a TV licence. They may ask for this in writing, just send that and they wont bother you for 3 years.

    The thing with uni's is that they cant really tell whos watching TV. They have all sorts of detection equipment, but when your on the 16th floor of a tower block, they cant pinpoint the flat which is recieving television signal. Plus, if you dont let them in they have no way of telling whether your laptop was plugged in or unplugged...so they have no legal basis for a fine.

    Essentially - no matter what your situation, if you know the laws you dont need a licence. Dont let the inspection people in - innocent until proven guilty, which they only ever prove as people dont know the laws and let inspectors in.
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    (Original post by snaude)
    If your laptop isnt plugged in you dont need a licence, like someone said. Presuming you have a TV licence at home of course...

    But - the inspectors have no legal right to enter your room. In Aston its highly unlikely they'll be able to get into the tower blocks and to your flat anyway, so I doubt they'd be banging on your door. If they do come simply tell them its not a convenient time for you and dont let them in. If you want, tell them that you dont require a TV licence. They may ask for this in writing, just send that and they wont bother you for 3 years.

    The thing with uni's is that they cant really tell whos watching TV. They have all sorts of detection equipment, but when your on the 16th floor of a tower block, they cant pinpoint the flat which is recieving television signal. Plus, if you dont let them in they have no way of telling whether your laptop was plugged in or unplugged...so they have no legal basis for a fine.

    Essentially - no matter what your situation, if you know the laws you dont need a licence. Dont let the inspection people in - innocent until proven guilty, which they only ever prove as people dont know the laws and let inspectors in.
    Just to clarify. So i can get a tv card for my laptop and use it without getting fined, just as long as i don't plug the charger in at the same time?
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    did you watch luton at all tonight doug?
 
 
 
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