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    Check out this article:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...ools-education

    It says that if you are from a private school, you've got a 7 in 10 chance of being accepted, whereas if you are from a state school, you only have a 4 in 10 chance, which is one massive difference! They say it's down to the extra curriclur stuff, I.e private school students can have better oppurtunities to take part in more sports/organisations etc.

    'In 2004, 57% of applicants from private schools were accepted into medical schools in the UK, while 49% of applicants from state schools were accepted, according to the university admissions service Ucas.

    The latest figures, from 2008, show that despite attempts to widen the social mix of the profession, 67% of applicants from private schools were accepted as medical students, while the proportion of state school applicants had dropped to 41%.'
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    Parents spend monies to buy you a better education, and then shock horror, you get a better education?

    Where is the news here?

    Surely the point of sending your kids to a private school is to improve their odds against everyone elses kids no?
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    There was a recent discussion about this on TSR, which can be found here.
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    (Original post by terpineol)
    Parents spend monies to buy you a better education, and then shock horror, you get a better education?

    Where is the news here?

    Surely the point of sending your kids to a private school is to improve their odds against everyone elses kids no?
    :laugh: I think that pretty much wraps this thread up.
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    :facepalm: Enough private school bashing already

    Private school students are more likely to be accepted because they look better on paper, thats the only reason
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    (Original post by terpineol)
    Parents spend monies to buy you a better education, and then shock horror, you get a better education?

    Where is the news here?

    Surely the point of sending your kids to a private school is to improve their odds against everyone elses kids no?
    Annoying but true, usually the bigger the price the greater the quality. Hopefully when I'm older I'll be able to send my kids to private school. Give them the best oppurtunities and all.
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    (Original post by terpineol)
    Parents spend monies to buy you a better education, and then shock horror, you get a better education?

    Where is the news here?

    Surely the point of sending your kids to a private school is to improve their odds against everyone elses kids no?
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    If ur good enough the you will get in.
    If your parents had to pay for you to be good enough then more fool them. I'd never send my kids to private school. If you want something get off your backside and get it. Im not paying for them.
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    Some places don't, actually. A private school I know got the impression that Leeds weren't that keen on private school students because they rejected everybody who applied there despite getting offers from Oxbridge and the like.
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    (Original post by fairy spangles)
    If ur good enough the you will get in.
    If your parents had to pay for you to be good enough then more fool them. I'd never send my kids to private school. If you want something get off your backside and get it. Im not paying for them.
    I agree
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    (Original post by terpineol)
    Parents spend monies to buy you a better education, and then shock horror, you get a better education?

    Where is the news here?

    Surely the point of sending your kids to a private school is to improve their odds against everyone elses kids no?
    yeah, but the point is not everybody can afford to send their children to a private school. so its kind of an unfair advantage
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    It annoys me that people think it's down to whether the candidate is from a pivate/state school. It's not.

    True private schools on the whole have a wider veriety of extra curricular activities which can increase the appeal of a candidate- including more positions suich as prefects and house captains etc.

    It's also true that private schools (on the whole) do more preparation towards applying for specialist courses such as medicine such as interview practices and meetings with teacher to discuss recent events in that field.

    This is the reason why they have a better success rates at getting into medical school, because they work hard to produce an appealing candidate who is prepared and therefore has a better chance of succeeding in the demanding admittance procedure. It's not down to private/ non private school prejudicing. State schools could do the same and achieve positive results too.
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    aye, and your mam could pay for me to private school too, macca, but wishing that wont mek it appen.
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    This is entirely a result of the closing of most state grammar schools. The parents of bright children who can afford it are quite likely to decide to send them to private, selective schools. It is highly likely that the brighter children will be found in greater concentration in selective schools. The bulk of top university entrants used to come from grammar schools; it is now private selective schools and the remaining state grammar schools that provide a disproportionate number entrants. Simples.
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    This is entirely a result of the closing of most state grammar schools. The parents of bright children who can afford it are quite likely to decide to send them to private, selective schools. It is highly likely that the brighter children will be found in greater concentration in selective schools. The bulk of top university entrants used to come from grammar schools; it is now private selective schools and the remaining state grammar schools that provide a disproportionate number entrants. Simples.
    Completely agree with this. I went to the local failing comprehensive school, and got out of there as soon as I had the chance - the work ethos was non-existant, the pupils of higher ability were ignored and the quality of the teaching staff left a lot to be desired. The 11+ may have seemed like a barbaric way to split children up, but at least then quality of education was based on intelligence and not wealth or faith.
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    (Original post by terpineol)
    Parents spend monies to buy you a better education, and then shock horror, you get a better education?

    Where is the news here?

    Surely the point of sending your kids to a private school is to improve their odds against everyone elses kids no?
    this. monies can buy most things.

    also OP: simple % acceptances/applicants etc does not take into account quality of applicants. those at private schools may, for example have better grades, work experience, come across better in interviews etc...


    of course, i note there are excellent candidates in non private schools too!
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    ahhhh, but would you send your children to public school, No Function?
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    (Original post by Alexzander)
    It annoys me that people think it's down to whether the candidate is from a pivate/state school. It's not.

    True private schools on the whole have a wider veriety of extra curricular activities which can increase the appeal of a candidate- including more positions suich as prefects and house captains etc.

    It's also true that private schools (on the whole) do more preparation towards applying for specialist courses such as medicine such as interview practices and meetings with teacher to discuss recent events in that field.

    This is the reason why they have a better success rates at getting into medical school, because they work hard to produce an appealing candidate who is prepared and therefore has a better chance of succeeding in the demanding admittance procedure. It's not down to private/ non private school prejudicing. State schools could do the same and achieve positive results too.
    This.

    It's not because the applicant themselves is a better person. But if you go to a private school you are going to be pushed into extra curriculum activities, position of responsibilities, and other things that will plump out any medical school application. At a private school if you express a desire to do medicine you will get a lot of help to do this, from UKCAT & BMAT help to personal statement help and interview techniques and gaining work experience.

    Compare this to my college for example, who when I told them I wanted to do medicine in October said "great good luck with that", refuse to even look over my personal statement, don't have a sports team I can join and my tutor asked me "so which entrance exam looks better then, the UKCAT or the BMAT? Because you want to do the most reputable".

    But this does not mean it's not possible -- if you want it enough you will get there regardless of where you are coming from. It's just that we're at disadvantage.
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    (Original post by fairy spangles)
    If ur good enough the you will get in.
    If your parents had to pay for you to be good enough then more fool them. I'd never send my kids to private school. If you want something get off your backside and get it. Im not paying for them.
    This.
 
 
 
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