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    (Original post by necessarily benevolent)
    Some of their members would probably want that, but officially they're only talking about "kicking out" illegals.
    Nope. Their manifestos consistently show a policy of seeking to encourage non-whites (non-ethnic Britons is their new term) to leave their homes, jobs and friends because, erm, they're non-white. So, the BNP is very, very racist.
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    (Original post by Oswy)
    Nope. Their manifestos consistently show a policy of seeking to encourage non-whites (non-ethnic Britons is their new term) to leave their homes, jobs and friends because, erm, they're non-white. So, the BNP is very, very racist.
    Oh, please don't start. :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by necessarily benevolent)
    Oh, please don't start. :rolleyes:
    Then stop telling porkies.
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    er, didnt they actually get less votes than in previous elections?

    the only reason they got any MEP's at all was because voter turnout was so low
    not because more people voted for them


    so how have this smaller number of people been failed by anyone?
    surely they have to take some responsibility for their own situation?
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    er, didnt they actually get less votes than in previous elections?
    No, votes for the BNP went up by 2% didn't it?
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    (Original post by CandyFlipper)
    No, votes for the BNP went up by 2% didn't it?
    afaik, at the European elections, total votes were down
    its just the BNP votes fell by less than the fall in voting, so they got a big enough % to get 2 MEP's under the PR system


    oh, & Nick Griffin dosnt even live in England!
    he lives in Wales!
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    (Original post by edge)
    afaik, at the European elections, total votes were down
    its just the BNP votes fell by less than the fall in voting, so they got a big enough % to get 2 MEP's under the PR system

    oh, & Nick Griffin dosnt even live in England!
    he lives in Wales!
    I mean I thought their vote went up 2% compared to their vote last time? Maybe I'm wrong though.

    And I don't really see the point you're making with the latter statement, but whatever.
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    (Original post by edge)
    afaik, at the European elections, total votes were down
    its just the BNP votes fell by less than the fall in voting, so they got a big enough % to get 2 MEP's under the PR system


    oh, & Nick Griffin dosnt even live in England!
    he lives in Wales!

    And, still part of Britain the last time I looked.
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    (Original post by CandyFlipper)
    I mean I thought their vote went up 2% compared to their vote last time? Maybe I'm wrong though.

    And I don't really see the point you're making with the latter statement, but whatever.

    Nick Griffin is currently MEP for North-West England
    he has stood in various previous elections within England

    yet he dosnt want to live in England, hmmm
    yep, he wants to 'represent' you, but he dosnt want to live anywhere near you.
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    He's in the EUROPEAN parliament, and he's anti-EU anyway, that's a centralised power that doesn't represent the people locally anyway - so where he actually lives doesn't really matter to me. If you support localised government then you should oppose the European institution. :yep:
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    (Original post by Oswy)
    Then stop telling porkies.
    Oh, I'm not. I'm stating available facts, which you proceed to twist and fiddle to your own ends, and, if that wasn't enough, add a rash and, quite hollow, moral judgement, which does nothing but appeal to emotion. What ever happened to historian's objectivity?
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    (Original post by necessarily benevolent)
    Oh, I'm not. I'm stating available facts, which you proceed to twist and fiddle to your own ends, and, if that wasn't enough, add a moral judgement.
    Yeah, you are. Are you going to state here that you aren't aware of the BNP policy to seek the voluntary departure from Britain of those who it deems not to be 'ethnically British'? It's kinda mentioned in their last two manifestos for a start. If you're going to defend the BNP then you should at least have some idea of what their stated aims are.

    Here's a snippet from page 14 of their 2005 manifesto as a little starting point:

    ..and the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants and their descendants who are legally here are afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question...
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    (Original post by Oswy)
    Yeah, you are. Are you going to state here that you aren't aware of the BNP policy to seek the voluntary departure from Britain of those who it deems not to be 'ethnically British'? It's kinda mentioned in their last two manifestos for a start. If you're going to defend the BNP then you should at least have some idea of what their stated aims are.

    Here's a snippet from page 14 of their 2005 manifesto as a little starting point:
    In thirty or forty years time, strains on resources and infrastructure will make a voluntary repatriation scheme a necessity. It's at the discretion of the voter whether or not they want to vote for this scheme for racialist purposes or practical purposes. If there is to be such a scheme then it's only fair that those whose ancestry in this country goes back the shortest, are the first to be approached, regardless of whether they're Senegalese, Polish, Italian, Spanish, Brazilian, Chinese, Pakistani or whatever. These all qualify under non-'ethnically British'.
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    (Original post by edge)
    er, didnt they actually get less votes than in previous elections?

    the only reason they got any MEP's at all was because voter turnout was so low
    not because more people voted for them

    No, that's nonsense. They got about 150,000 more votes! In 2004 they got ~800,000 and they reached ~945,000 in 2009.
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    It does seem funny all the major parties are just saying 'Bah, people are only voting BNP because they've lost their KKK membership and we've had some dodgy expenses claims'. This achieves nothing at all. They must accept at some point people are voting BNP because they are NOT happy with the immigration system, a debate Labour has skirted.

    And peope egging Nick Griffin? Wouldn't they be better off egging all the people of the North West, who legitimately voted him in?
 
 
 
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