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    (Original post by ForeverIsMyName)
    Why should you have to have a mandatory hearing for a bunch of cells? I don't see a medical doctor and a judge before I have a ****, so why should you have one before an abortion of something that, as you've admitted, has no rights?

    And why 5 weeks?
    At 5 weeks its heart starts beating. It's a human.
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    im so pleased some of you people arnt in charge of this country
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    (Original post by JakePearson)
    At 5 weeks its heart starts beating. It's a human.
    Is a beating heart what makes something a person then? What's your criteria?
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    (Original post by JakePearson)
    At 5 weeks its heart starts beating. It's a human.
    That's sound logic.
    :p:
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    (Original post by missygeorgia)
    Is a beating heart what makes something a person then? What's your criteria?
    (Original post by ForeverIsMyName)
    That's sound logic. :p:
    I'm bailing out of this one because, quite frankly, I am not arguing with people who ask me why or deride me for saying that once two humans create something that has a beating heart, that something is alive and is a human.
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    (Original post by JakePearson)
    I'm bailing out of this one because, quite frankly, I am not arguing with people who are stupid enough to ask me why or deride me for saying that once two humans create something that has a beating heart, that something is alive and is a human.
    Be as dismissive as you want, but it's not self evident, and if you want the claim to be taken seriously you need to justify it. Your call.
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    (Original post by JakePearson)
    I'm bailing out of this one because, quite frankly, I am not arguing with people who ask me why or deride me for saying that once two humans create something that has a beating heart, that something is alive and is a human.
    A genital wart is a living thing, and it's very much human.
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    (Original post by ForeverIsMyName)
    A genital wart is a living thing, and it's very much human.
    Does it have a heart or a brain, and was it created by two humans for the purpose of becoming a human (or not, in the case of some pregnancies)?

    No.
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    (Original post by missygeorgia)
    Be as dismissive as you want, but it's not self evident, and if you want the claim to be taken seriously you need to justify it. Your call.
    It's pretty self evident that when to humans create something that has a heartbeat and a brain, that this thing is a human and is alive. That is a very simple fact of life.
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    (Original post by JakePearson)
    It's pretty self evident that when to humans create something that has a heartbeat and a brain, that this thing is a human and is alive. That is a very simple fact of life.
    Being human and alive is not necessarily the same as being a person/human being.
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    (Original post by missygeorgia)
    Being human and alive is not necessarily the same as being a person/human being.
    And this is the fundamental difference between us pro-lifers and you pro-choicers. I see life as life, and any action against that is immoral and wrong. Life is the most important thing to me, and must be cherished.

    I don't doubt that you value life just as much as me, but you place a lot of emphasis on the rights of the mother - which is fine, it's just that it's a very tricky debate and depends on your personal beliefs and morals.

    I've had the abortion argument too many times now, and there's no swaying either side. That's why I'm bailing here, but thanks anyway - I now have some food for thought.
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    (Original post by JakePearson)
    And this is the fundamental difference between us pro-lifers and you pro-choicers. I see life as life, and any action against that is immoral and wrong. Life is the most important thing to me, and must be cherished.

    I don't doubt that you value life just as much as me, but you place a lot of emphasis on the rights of the mother - which is fine, it's just that it's a very tricky debate and depends on your personal beliefs and morals.

    I've had the abortion argument too many times now, and there's no swaying either side. That's why I'm bailing here, but thanks anyway - I now have some food for thought.
    Fair enough.
 
 
 
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