Well I suppose I'm a kinda "black sheep" too. For one, I gave up playing the piano and I don't speak chinese at all. My parents are actually malaysian born chinese and so don't speak the language, so to speak. They speak a more obscure dialect called hokkein. Also, never watched TVB in my life...but I have heard of it. I pretty much get the same kind of response when I ask about it though...pile of sh*te. Surely the chinese have other more intellectually stimulating channels? As for your social groupings...I think it's hard to generalise. Like myself...I could'nt put myself in any of your categories. I know people who you are trying to describe, like the "trendy cantonese". They're trendy, but they don't restrict themselves to only other canton trendies.