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    why is it that unis best for chemistry are either oxbridge which i will obviously not apply for or some other ones which are not in the top 20 of the general rankings, or are in scotland which im not planning on going to. and for example durham is meant to be like number 4 on the rankings for best unis for chemistry and it doesnt have good chemistry courses how does that make it number 4? and imperial is meant to be a sience uni and it doesnt have good courses or research score. :confused:
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    cambridge. anyway, i'm really hungry.
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    As some uni's have very good chemistry departments. Don't put all your faith in the tables do your own research on each uni.
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    im just really confused, which unis are the best for chemistry then, the ones which are also recognised well as well. eg. edinburgh has really good courses but its like 20something on the list,
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    (Original post by MnM007)
    im just really confused, which unis are the best for chemistry then, the ones which are also recognised well as well. eg. edinburgh has really good courses but its like 20something on the list,
    Why is 20-something bad? Yeesh, you're in for a world of hurt if you're limiting yourself to the top 10 of everything in life.
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    (Original post by MnM007)
    im just really confused, which unis are the best for chemistry then, the ones which are also recognised well as well. eg. edinburgh has really good courses but its like 20something on the list,
    A quick lesson for you:

    Screw the league tables.

    Go to Universitys, look around, talk to the staff, get a feel for the place!

    LEAGUE TABLES ARE NOT EVERYTHING.
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    Imperial, UCL, York, Nottingham and Durham aren't top 20?

    They are the ones you want anyway.
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    Ignore the league tables. They're pointless and won't tell you anything useful. How exactly can a combination of statistics (some relevant to you, some not so) determine which university is 'best' for your course? (And best for you?)

    A far better thing is to consider universities with entry requirements around your level and then also consider the actual course content and the location/atmosphere.

    Additionally, you're going to do chemistry... any university will be pretty much good/excellent since increasingly universities are quick to close failing science departments (Exeter being a case in point losing their chemistry department not too long ago).
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    It's because they spend all their money on excellent chemistry departments, of course. :dry:
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    (Original post by .ACS.)
    Additionally, you're going to do chemistry... any university will be pretty much good/excellent since increasingly universities are quick to close failing science departments (Exeter being a case in point losing them chemistry department not too long ago).
    ..........yyyeeeahhhhh so you've got to make sure you don't go to one that might.

    ie sussex/bath/reading
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    (Original post by MnM007)
    im just really confused, which unis are the best for chemistry then, the ones which are also recognised well as well. eg. edinburgh has really good courses but its like 20something on the list,
    Go to the RAE results, if they win in that they are the best for chemistry.
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    Don't take the league tables as scripture. What are lower down now may be in the top 10/5 by the time you graduate. The league tables are ridiculously skewed toward oxford and cambridge. Basically, they are pretty pointless - would be much better if they had a level system rather than a ranking. But even that would have its problems. --Ignore league tables!!
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    Go to the RAE results, if they win in that they are the best for chemistry.
    RAE ratings are pretty flawed, besides they're not that important for undergrad anyway.

    Bottom line is that newspaper league tables are very flawed and should be used only as a starting point.
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    League tables are useful as a guide, if they are used carefully. If research is important to you see how universities rank in the field of chemistry research - you can filter by the categories at the top after you've chosen your subject. But, league tables definitely have their limits and use them very cautiously - whether the course is suited to you is much more important than a league table statistic which changes year on year and varies according to newspaper.
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    (Original post by EierVonSatan)
    RAE ratings are pretty flawed, besides they're not that important for undergrad anyway.

    Bottom line is that newspaper league tables are very flawed and should be used only as a starting point.
    Agreed but there is a good collelation, better than the aggregated 'league tables'. They also give an indication of research income and hence the safety of the dept.

    The last teaching assessments are 15 years old so theres not really anything to work on, so I call them the best of a bad bunch :P
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    (Original post by OiaB)
    A quick lesson for you:

    Screw the league tables.

    Go to Universitys, look around, talk to the staff, get a feel for the place!

    LEAGUE TABLES ARE NOT EVERYTHING.
    This.
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    I wouldn't pay much more than the slightest attention to league tables, especially the subject ones
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    so which unis are good for chemistry and are well recognised, ignore oxbridge. like is there any of them specialised in that, sorry im sounding so dumb i finished 1st year at sixth form n still really confused.
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    (Original post by MnM007)
    im just really confused, which unis are the best for chemistry then, the ones which are also recognised well as well. eg. edinburgh has really good courses but its like 20something on the list,
    I agree with the rest of the thread that league tables don't matter that much.
    But, Edinburgh is half of Eastchem, and in the last RAE they came top for some metrics, and about top 5 for the others.
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    (Original post by MnM007)
    so which unis are good for chemistry and are well recognised, ignore oxbridge. like is there any of them specialised in that, sorry im sounding so dumb i finished 1st year at sixth form n still really confused.
    Manchester was 4th in RAE I believe.
 
 
 
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