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    (Original post by Quady)
    Agreed but there is a good collelation, better than the aggregated 'league tables'. They also give an indication of research income and hence the safety of the dept.
    The problem is there are about a million ways to interpret the latest RAE results. RAE only accounts for a very small amount of direct funding and to be honest highly ranked departments have gone to the wall too (Exeter and King's College come to mind). Most RAE score aggregates don't count the size of the department as a factor even though that is crucial in determining stability in terms of research income and breadth of specialities in terms of the academics within the department.

    To be perfectly honest, the teaching of chemistry in the UK is of a good standard anywhere you go. As far as I am concerned a university that even offers all the physical sciences to undergraduates is well ahead of the game compared to many places.
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    (Original post by MnM007)
    so which unis are good for chemistry and are well recognised, ignore oxbridge. like is there any of them specialised in that, sorry im sounding so dumb i finished 1st year at sixth form n still really confused.
    York, Bristol, Imperial, UCL, Durham and of course Oxbridge.

    I'd say use the ranking tables, but not as a ranking system. Use them to give you Unis to look at. Then use the Unis website to take a look at course content/structure and decide if you like it or not.
    Take a look at entry requirements and think about whether or not it's likely you'll get in, the most advised method is to go for 2 above you 1 at your expected level and 2 below you (I did 4 up and 1 below although I was predicted AAA which I was never going to get :p:). Then head over to an open day, tbh most open days are probably filled for this cycle so your best bet is to call up and ask if they can arrange a seperate tour of the Uni, do this at the end of Sept. as I'd imagine they'll be slightly short with you because of the current cycle ending and A2 students begging for places.
    You needn't restric yourself to viewing the 5 Unis of your choice, go out and see as many as takes your fancy.

    Finally, good luck for the 20th
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    yeh thats a great method i think the 2 above 1 at ur level n 2 below. thanks
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    (Original post by Zorg)
    York, Bristol, Imperial, UCL, Durham and of course Oxbridge.
    Manchester, Nottingham, Warwick, Brimingham, Edinburgh, St Andrews, Glasgow, Strathclyde, Southampton, Newcastle, Leeds, Loughborough, Leicester, Reading as well. I'm sure I've probably missed some off there.
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    (Original post by MnM007)
    so which unis are good for chemistry and are well recognised, ignore oxbridge. like is there any of them specialised in that, sorry im sounding so dumb i finished 1st year at sixth form n still really confused.
    Pretty much any university that offers it.
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    (Original post by MnM007)
    why is it that unis best for chemistry are either oxbridge which i will obviously not apply for or some other ones which are not in the top 20 of the general rankings, or are in scotland which im not planning on going to. and for example durham is meant to be like number 4 on the rankings for best unis for chemistry and it doesnt have good chemistry courses how does that make it number 4? and imperial is meant to be a sience uni and it doesnt have good courses or research score. :confused:
    http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/tol_...ub=14&x=21&y=2
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    (Original post by ChemistBoy)
    Manchester, Nottingham, Warwick, Brimingham, Edinburgh, St Andrews, Glasgow, Strathclyde, Southampton, Newcastle, Leeds, Loughborough, Leicester, Reading as well. I'm sure I've probably missed some off there.
    Lol, I know they're loads, I've listed what I thought were the top few when I took a look around.
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    I take it you haven't even read the first 10 posts?
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    (Original post by Zorg)
    I take it you haven't even read the first 10 posts?
    I dont need to...

    He asked a question, I just gave an answer
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    (Original post by LJBzzz)
    I dont need to...

    He asked a question, I just gave an answer
    It is widely accepted that Rankings aren't the most definitive. Take a look at the Guardian's Rankings and compare to the Times Rankings; note the differences?
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    (Original post by Zorg)
    It is widely accepted that Rankings aren't the most definitive. Take a look at the Guardian's Rankings and compare to the Times Rankings; note the differences?
    I didnt say they are.

    For example,

    I had the predicted grades to go to UCL, LSE, Durham etc for Geog, but I didnt because none of the courses suit me.

    However, league tables combined are a good indication as to how the course is considered
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    Yes Rankings are flawed. I go to Manchester to study Chemistry. There twenty something in the guradian standings, top 10 in world rankings and 4th in RAE rankings. As you can see it's really unreliable.
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    To be honest there isn't much difference between most Chemistry departments.

    I applied to Imperial, UCL, Sheffield, Bristol and Durham and had a really hard choice. I chose UCL because I wanted to live in London and I preferred it over Imperial despite the rankings.

    I like UCL because it has a small department and I was able to take History of Science modules. Not because of any ranking it has.
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    (Original post by LJBzzz)
    I didnt say they are.

    For example,

    I had the predicted grades to go to UCL, LSE, Durham etc for Geog, but I didnt because none of the courses suit me.

    However, league tables combined are a good indication as to how the course is considered
    So in fact they don't answer the OP's question?
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    (Original post by Zorg)
    So in fact they don't answer the OP's question?

    His question asked why the top universities for Chemistry are not very highly ranked overall.

    It does not ask if league tables are a good way of determining the quality of a course and an institution.
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    (Original post by LJBzzz)
    His question asked why the top universities for Chemistry are not very highly ranked overall.

    It does not ask if league tables are a good way of determining the quality of a course and an institution.
    So hence just posting the league tables doesn't answer his question does it?
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    (Original post by Zorg)
    So hence just posting the league tables doesn't answer his question does it?
    Your from Oxford uni are you?

    If you are I am not surprised. You can sit on a forum all day and comment on people if you want. The league table I posted suggests that there are top universities in for Chemisty.
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    (Original post by Zorg)
    York, Bristol, Imperial, UCL, Durham and of course Oxbridge.

    I'd say use the ranking tables, but not as a ranking system. Use them to give you Unis to look at. Then use the Unis website to take a look at course content/structure and decide if you like it or not.
    Take a look at entry requirements and think about whether or not it's likely you'll get in, the most advised method is to go for 2 above you 1 at your expected level and 2 below you (I did 4 up and 1 below although I was predicted AAA which I was never going to get :p:). Then head over to an open day, tbh most open days are probably filled for this cycle so your best bet is to call up and ask if they can arrange a seperate tour of the Uni, do this at the end of Sept. as I'd imagine they'll be slightly short with you because of the current cycle ending and A2 students begging for places.
    You needn't restric yourself to viewing the 5 Unis of your choice, go out and see as many as takes your fancy.

    Finally, good luck for the 20th
    Complete rubbish. Do not apply above your means, let alone for two courses. If you have your heart set on a university which you cannot get into, it will only dissapoint you when you are not accepted, or when you do not meet your offer!
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    (Original post by LJBzzz)
    Your from Oxford uni are you?

    If you are I am not surprised. You can sit on a forum all day and comment on people if you want. The league table I posted suggests that there are top universities in for Chemisty.
    I live in Oxford and am hoping to go to Bristol for Biology, would you care to be a bit more judgemental? I get enough of it from people asking why I don't just go to an Oxford Uni.

    I'm waiting for A2 results and am cacking myself in all honesty so I think what I decide to do with my time isn't really something you can judge either, prick.

    Let's face it posting the league table when the OP has obviously just gone and seen that there are large differences between the general league tables and the subject specific league tables isn't answering the queation is it?
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    (Original post by LJBzzz)
    Complete rubbish. Do not apply above your means, let alone for two courses. If you have your heart set on a university which you cannot get into, it will only dissapoint you when you are not accepted, or when you do not meet your offer!
    This was a suggestion on the basis that the person may do better than their predicted grades, it's not unheard of for a person to be predicted BBB and get AAB.

    I see you've taken to reading the thread now, or are you just scrutinizing my posts?
 
 
 
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