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Men - They really are all the same!

Hi,

Just wondering if anyone has some useful advice because I feel so desperate right now :mad:

Me and my boyfriend were meant to be spending the whole day together in London - I cancelled plans with my family and bought loads of food so we could go and have a picnic in Hyde Park. (We live about an hour away - me SW London and him SE London).

He texts me at 9am this morning (an hour before we're going to meet) saying he can't make it because of engineering works on the line which have closed the whole train line. We've been together a few months and although I trust him, I looked on the internet just to check he wasn't lying. I know for a fact that trains are running as normal from his to Waterloo - I even spoke to the woman at his train station as I couldn't believe he would lie to me.

I told him what I knew and he still insisted he was telling the truth, when he obviously is not. He turned the whole thing round on me saying 'you should trust me... you obviously don't want to be with me' etc... Maybe I should have trusted him - that's a different matter - but obviously my doubts in him were true!

I phoned him and he still lied to me - I really don't know why.

He went to a party last night and stayed over - all I can think is that he's met someone else. I really can't understand why he would so blatanty lie to me! We have a great relationship, and neither of us wants it to end as far as I know!

I'm just so annoyed because I'm sure he could get to Waterloo if he wanted - get a bus or taxi, or get to a station closeby which is on a different line - I'm going insane here! His friends and family drive.... god I mean there are plenty of ways that he *could* solve the 'problem'!

What should I do? I've never been in love before but I know he's lying to me! I've given everything to him and he promised he wouldn't hurt me - I really should have listened to my Dad when he said men are only after one thing!!!

Thanks for any advice... x x x

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Hey sweetie!

You know what I would do...not do anything.
I mean you go out and live your own life today as if you haden't planned anything ok?Whatever happens you DON'T phone h im or come into communication with him. If he tries to phone you today and tomorrow ignore the calls and just ignore him as if he didnt exist.
In two days when he'll try, pick it up and go : what you want? in a cold voice. If he wants to stay with you he'll tell you whats wrong and apologise. If he doesnt at least you dont look desperatly in love and hence it redeems you in a way :smile:

Good luck babe....Ill repeat again, guys arentworht it :wink: :rolleyes:
Sometimes you have to resist the urge of talking ot them so that they'll feel vulnerable, now hes just exectin gyou to run after him and frgive him. If you don't he'll not only respect you for that but your indifference shows that he's in a *dangerous* postition if you know what I mean.
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wild thing
Hey sweetie!

You know what I would do...not do anything.
I mean you go out and live your own life today as if you haden't planned anything ok?Whatever happens you DON'T phone h im or come into communication with him. If he tries to phone you today and tomorrow ignore the calls and just ignore him as if he didnt exist.
In two days when he'll try, pick it up and go : what you want? in a cold voice. If he wants to stay with you he'll tell you whats wrong and apologise. If he doesnt at least you dont look desperatly in love and hence it redeems you in a way :smile:

Good luck babe....Ill repeat again, guys arentworht it :wink: :rolleyes:


Thanks honey - that's great advice! Trouble is I'm in agony trying to do that... I can't ignore him even though I know I should... I wish I could just switch my feelings off, but I can't - why do things like this have to be so damn difficult?!

Thanks again x
Lauren18
Hi,

Just wondering if anyone has some useful advice because I feel so desperate right now :mad:

Me and my boyfriend were meant to be spending the whole day together in London - I cancelled plans with my family and bought loads of food so we could go and have a picnic in Hyde Park. (We live about an hour away - me SW London and him SE London).

He texts me at 9am this morning (an hour before we're going to meet) saying he can't make it because of engineering works on the line which have closed the whole train line. We've been together a few months and although I trust him, I looked on the internet just to check he wasn't lying. I know for a fact that trains are running as normal from his to Waterloo - I even spoke to the woman at his train station as I couldn't believe he would lie to me.

I told him what I knew and he still insisted he was telling the truth, when he obviously is not. He turned the whole thing round on me saying 'you should trust me... you obviously don't want to be with me' etc... Maybe I should have trusted him - that's a different matter - but obviously my doubts in him were true!

I phoned him and he still lied to me - I really don't know why.

He went to a party last night and stayed over - all I can think is that he's met someone else. I really can't understand why he would so blatanty lie to me! We have a great relationship, and neither of us wants it to end as far as I know!

I'm just so annoyed because I'm sure he could get to Waterloo if he wanted - get a bus or taxi, or get to a station closeby which is on a different line - I'm going insane here! His friends and family drive.... god I mean there are plenty of ways that he *could* solve the 'problem'!

What should I do? I've never been in love before but I know he's lying to me! I've given everything to him and he promised he wouldn't hurt me - I really should have listened to my Dad when he said men are only after one thing!!!

Thanks for any advice... x x x


Aww...*hugs*

Well i guess you really have several options....

1) Talk to him and try to get him to tell you what is going on, whether there is a reason he doesn't want to make the effort to see you, whether there is someone else and whether or not he wants to be in the relationship....

2) Ignore him.....now i personally think this is the more immature option- if i were you i would want to sort things out, to know where i stood.

If you really want to get to the bottom of things, and find out one way or the other, i really suggest you try and talk to him again...make sure that you explain why what he has done has made you upset and try not to get too worked up- if you stay calm its more likely he will listen and more likely he will respond.

Good luck! hope it works out for you, if you need to talk to anyone just drop me a pm or add me to msn (address in my profile) :smile:

Ruthie xx

EDIT: Make it clear to him that you are not just going to forgive him, but that you want to know what is going on, and don't be too soft on him, he's obviously upset you a lot.
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ruthiepoothie
Aww...*hugs*

Well i guess you really have several options....

1) Talk to him and try to get him to tell you what is going on, whether there is a reason he doesn't want to make the effort to see you, whether there is someone else and whether or not he wants to be in the relationship....

2) Ignore him.....now i personally think this is the more immature option- if i were you i would want to sort things out, to know where i stood.

If you really want to get to the bottom of things, and find out one way or the other, i really suggest you try and talk to him again...make sure that you explain why what he has done has made you upset and try not to get too worked up- if you stay calm its more likely he will listen and more likely he will respond.

Good luck! hope it works out for you, if you need to talk to anyone just drop me a pm or add me to msn (address in my profile) :smile:

Ruthie xx

EDIT: Make it clear to him that you are not just going to forgive him, but that you want to know what is going on, and don't be too soft on him, he's obviously upset you a lot.


Thanks Ruthie... you guys have such great advice! I've already tried option one - I was really calm on the phone, didn't sound like a stalker or anything lol! He still insisted there were engineering works - which is a categoric lie! - and told me he loved me, doesn't want to be with anyone else... bla bla bla. Trouble is I just can't ignore him, so I really don't know what to do.

He's four years older than me and has had a few serious relationships, whereas I haven't, so this is a really big deal for me and I'm just so confused. It's like a heart v head thing I think - I know that something isn't right, but I don't want to believe it as when we're together it's just so amazing... argh!
Lauren18
Thanks honey - that's great advice! Trouble is I'm in agony trying to do that... I can't ignore him even though I know I should... I wish I could just switch my feelings off, but I can't - why do things like this have to be so damn difficult?!

Thanks again x

You HAVE to resist :biggrin:
Goooo Lauren you can do it!!! REsist resist resist!
When I've had fights with bfs i tried diff tactics..once ignored really badly and another time tried to sort things out. THe ignoring one alawyas worked muuuuuch more :smile:
Go do some sport or watch some film! At least resist until tomorrow:frown:
Lauren18
Thanks Ruthie... you guys have such great advice! I've already tried option one - I was really calm on the phone, didn't sound like a stalker or anything lol! He still insisted there were engineering works - which is a categoric lie! - and told me he loved me, doesn't want to be with anyone else... bla bla bla. Trouble is I just can't ignore him, so I really don't know what to do.

He's four years older than me and has had a few serious relationships, whereas I haven't, so this is a really big deal for me and I'm just so confused. It's like a heart v head thing I think - I know that something isn't right, but I don't want to believe it as when we're together it's just so amazing... argh!


Is there anywhere else that you could meet? That he could get to by bus or something? It might be easier to talk to each other face to face... Did he suggest anything else instead of meeting in london? Or another time for you to meet?

It seems very odd that he would continue to lie to you and yet keep telling you that he loves you etc.....I don't see why he would say all the nice things to you if he didn't mean them...especially as he's already said he can't see you today.

You must be feeling really confused... i know i would be *more hugs*

Ruthie xx
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Hide your phone so you haven't gotthe temptation to call/text him. Give it to your mate to look after for a couple of days or something!
Reply 9
Men - They really are all the same!

Have you met them all?
wild thing
You HAVE to resist :biggrin:
Goooo Lauren you can do it!!! REsist resist resist!
When I've had fights with bfs i tried diff tactics..once ignored really badly and another time tried to sort things out. THe ignoring one alawyas worked muuuuuch more :smile:
Go do some sport or watch some film! At least resist until tomorrow:frown:


Yes on the one hand, it can be good to give each other some space and stuff...but this sounds different as they aren't actually arguing, he was being really nice on the phone....

And I know in situations like that I find it better to try and sort things out straight away before they get any worse, which could happen if you start ignoring each other and stuff.

Ruthie xx
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ruthiepoothie
Is there anywhere else that you could meet? That he could get to by bus or something? It might be easier to talk to each other face to face... Did he suggest anything else instead of meeting in london? Or another time for you to meet?

It seems very odd that he would continue to lie to you and yet keep telling you that he loves you etc.....I don't see why he would say all the nice things to you if he didn't mean them...especially as he's already said he can't see you today.

You must be feeling really confused... i know i would be *more hugs*

Ruthie xx


I suggested a load of different options on the phone... including me making a 2 hour train journey to his... he just kept making excuses and continuing the lie... then he said his battery was running out and he'd have to go. Something isn't right - it's just bugging me so much as I don't know what it is! Knowing him it's probably that his mum wants him over for a bank holiday dinner or something and he doesn't want to let me down - I just don't know.

My head's going round and round and round and round in circles and I just cannot concentrate on the revision in front of me. He suggested that he takes me to a hotel one night this week - I think n
Reply 12
So you're pissed off that your boyfriend is a lying bastard, you have to try and insult the whole gender?
Reply 13
ruthiepoothie
Is there anywhere else that you could meet? That he could get to by bus or something? It might be easier to talk to each other face to face... Did he suggest anything else instead of meeting in london? Or another time for you to meet?

It seems very odd that he would continue to lie to you and yet keep telling you that he loves you etc.....I don't see why he would say all the nice things to you if he didn't mean them...especially as he's already said he can't see you today.

You must be feeling really confused... i know i would be *more hugs*

Ruthie xx


I suggested a load of different options on the phone... including me making a 2 hour train journey to his... he just kept making excuses and continuing the lie... then he said his battery was running out and he'd have to go. Something isn't right - it's just bugging me so much as I don't know what it is! Knowing him it's probably that his mum wants him over for a bank holiday dinner or something insignificant like that, and he doesn't want to let me down - I just don't know. :confused:

My head's going round and round and round and round in circles and I just cannot concentrate on the revision in front of me. I really need to see him face to face, he can't lie to me then - it's too hard!

He suggested that he takes me to a hotel one night this week to make up - I think not after this mister!

Only other thing I can think of is that he cheated on me last night at this party and feels awful about it - he'll probably have got totally ratted and I suppose anything could have happened with me not being there. Ibelieve him when he says he loves me... that's why I'm so flippin' confuzzled!
Reply 14
JaF
Have you met them all?


No just about 99%. I lie. - We are perfect for each other after all - a pair of liars!
Reply 15
mik1w
So you're pissed off that your boyfriend is a lying bastard, you have to try and insult the whole gender?


That was a joke... there must be nice guys out there. I swear they hide though because most girls have never seen them.
He sounds a bit hopeless and I agree with a lot of the advice.

Love the title of the thread though. :rolleyes:

All generalisations rock.
Yeah. I would try to help but what'd be the point seeing as I'm exactly the same as your boyfriend?
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Onearmedbandit
Yeah. I would try to help but what'd be the point seeing as I'm exactly the same as your boyfriend?

I'm sorry guys... I know most of you on here are absolutely wonderful and deserve great girlfriends... it's just that when someone you love lies to you it kind of makes you despise the whole male species. I used to hate it when girls said things like the title of my thread, so I apologise for any offence caused, it was not intentional - I'm in a pretty confused state right now! x
mik1w
So you're pissed off that your boyfriend is a lying bastard, you have to try and insult the whole gender?

lol, I was going to point this out, but it'd be too obvious. She's probably just venting her frustration-I know I'd be!

As for the situation at hand, just have some time out; I know it seems likely but you're jumping to conclusions a bit, which is making you confused. Once you've settled your head for abit, then try to have a talk with him, communication is the key thing here.