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    (Original post by 35mm_)
    He's not a Nazi, he's as far away from National Socialism as you can get.
    Well not really, the BNP are much more left wing economically than Labour or the Conservatives, or for that fact the Lib Dems.
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    (Original post by necessarily benevolent)
    Don't you dare call me a 'Nazi'. My forefathers died to defend this country from Nazi invasion. .
    Are you sure it wasn't you? Aren't you a Jewish anti-semetic Royal Marine Commando like all the other BNP shills?
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    (Original post by andywylde)
    How thick are some people on here? REALLY?

    If anyone here thinks the UAF are decent people you must be seriously brain washed.

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    Well if the UAF want to protest, its their right, eh 35mm?
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    (Original post by Lefty Leo)
    Well not really, the BNP are much more left wing economically than Labour or the Conservatives, or for that fact the Lib Dems.
    I know they are, what's your point? As far as I know NB doesn't support the BNP because of their economic policies (aka left-wing).
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    (Original post by Clubber Lang)
    Well if the UAF want to protest, its their right, eh 35mm?
    They can protest, yes, and it's their right. But to purposely inflame a situation and counter-protest a perfectly reasonable cause, is wrong.
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    (Original post by 35mm_)
    I know they are, what's your point? As far as I know NB doesn't support the BNP because of their economic policies (aka left-wing).
    Hmm, even so, the Nazis were hardly socialist. They were centrist economically but extremely authoritarian. The Socialist was just to make them appeal to everyone; nationalists (the rural masses) and socialists (the urban masses).
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    (Original post by 35mm_)
    They can protest, yes, and it's their right. But to purposely inflame a situation and counter-protest a perfectly reasonable cause, is wrong.
    So next time if the EDL purposely set out to cause trouble you will condemn then?

    Its wrong to counter protest? Who decides which cause is reasonable. Ironic
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    (Original post by juanmodesto)
    The UAF were irrelevant. It was self-defence by the population against aggression.

    Back in the '80s my old man was arrested in Southall when some skinhead scum turned-up for a gig by the "Four Skins". They got the kicking they deserved and nothing like that has happened since.

    People need to meet aggression with counter-violence otherwise the Nazis street-fighters get cocky. Saturday's well-deserved arse-kicking is a good start.
    They weren't Nazi's though, they were just protesting against Muslim Extremism..
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    (Original post by Lefty Leo)
    Lol! Hardly. You're about as National Socialist as they get :wink2:

    Ah right, sorry, guess i misunderstood. :sadnod:

    Doubtful. You seem to have experienced a sea change in belief, from right wing BNP supporter racist xenophobe gay basher to right wing libertarian :p:
    I've never said anything "racist" on this forum. Perhaps the most "racist" thing I've said - if you can even call it that - is that a country is characterised by the dominant ethnicity that resides in it, which I still think is true. This isn't "racism" (which is pretty meaningless today because of its ambiguity and how much it's used - http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...20&postcount=1), it's an acknowledgement of, as Powell said, differences between men and nations. You're just annoyed because I think you're anti-British for your constant applying of present-day standards on the Empire, so you can use it to your own, vengeful ends. The only "gay bash[ing]" I've done is to claim that anal sex is merely a substitute for actual sexual intercourse, and cannot be treated in the same way (a bit like how mutual masturbation cannot). The simple stating of this ever so obvious fact should not be chastised - it's when you attach moral baggage onto it when it should be (i.e. homosexuality is wrong because anal is not real sex). So, in fact, I haven't changed any belief. You've just always gone and twisted them in your head and created a straw-NB. :oink:
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    (Original post by Clubber Lang)
    So next time if the EDL purposely set out to cause trouble you will condemn then?
    Yes. But I don't believe that on Saturday they were, as a whole.
    Its wrong to counter protest? Who decides which cause is reasonable. Ironic
    Well, they made it out to be something it wasn't. The protested against the BNP, when, ironically, the BNP weren't even there. And they made it out to be an anti-Muslim protest, when it wasn't, it was an anti Islamic fundamentalism protest.
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    (Original post by Clubber Lang)
    So next time if the EDL purposely set out to cause trouble you will condemn then?

    Its wrong to counter protest? Who decides which cause is reasonable. Ironic
    The EDL are a shady group. But on the day that this discussion is based on...the EDL didn't step out of line once. They spent the majority of their protest looking bored out of their minds.

    It's unquestionably wrong if a protest is simply happening to incite aggression and violent behaviour, as the UAF demo was on the particular day.
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    (Original post by 35mm_)
    They can protest, yes, and it's their right. But to purposely inflame a situation and counter-protest a perfectly reasonable cause, is wrong.
    The "Four Skins" gig in Southall was perfectly legal.

    This is about contesting the street. Kicking the **** out of a few hundred skins in Southall has resulted in 27 years of peace in West London. The BNP/NF etc dare not show their faces here because they know they'll get a kicking.

    If the EDL/Casuals demo had been unopposed then what happened at their demo in Luton would have been repeated. The non-Whites of Brum were not having any of that. They defended themselves.

    If the Nazis aren't up for it they'd better stay at home. They are not taking the streets without a fight.

    Of course a sheltered deluded white won't see this situation for what it is.
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    from what i have read, the EDL tunrout was ridiculously poor - less than 8- according to the Time. WHich kind of sums it up.

    The taggers on caused the trouble from that side, something the EDL should have considered.

    I imagine the next EDL protest will now be massive with a lot of these taggers on attendng.
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    Hm, us Chinese seem to have got along fine without much trouble~
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    (Original post by juanmodesto)
    The "Four Skins" gig in Southall was perfectly legal.

    This is about contesting the street. Kicking the **** out of a few hundred skins in Southall has resulted in 27 years of peace in West London. The BNP/NF etc dare not show their faces here because they know they'll get a kicking.

    If the EDL/Casuals demo had been unopposed then what happened at their demo in Luton would have been repeated. The non-Whites of Brum were not having any of that. They defended themselves.

    If the Nazis aren't up for it they'd better stay at home. They are not taking the streets without a fight.

    Of course a sheltered deluded white won't see this situation for what it is.
    So what was with the Asian councilor screaming "Our streets!" continuously down a microphone then?

    The EDL were protesting in pidgeon park, surround by police and they all looked bored to death. All the ferociousness came from the UAF demo. OMG.
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    (Original post by juanmodesto)
    The "Four Skins" gig in Southall was perfectly legal.
    This is about contesting the street. Kicking the **** out of a few hundred skins in Southall has resulted in 27 years of peace in West London. The BNP/NF etc dare not show their faces here because they know they'll get a kicking.
    I don't really care, that's not what we're talking about.
    If the EDL/Casuals demo had been unopposed then what happened at their demo in Luton would have been repeated. The non-Whites of Brum were not having any of that. They defended themselves.
    FYI, it wasn't just non-whites protesting against the EDL, it included whites in the UAF. Still, they had nothing to "defend" themselves from, because there was no ******* racism.
    If the Nazis aren't up for it they'd better stay at home. They are not taking the streets without a fight.
    Except they're not Nazis
    Of course a sheltered deluded white won't see this situation for what it is.
    How'd you know i'm white? Why am I deluded? And why am I sheltered?

    I think I can see this situation a lot more clearly than somebody who's determined to blame absolutely everything on white people, and believe minorities to be blameless. The Asians on saturday acted like complete and utter thugs, the Asian teenagers (the majority) in Birmingham are morons. This is not racist, it's an observation, and the only Asians to act like thugs on Saturday were teenagers, you can see that for yourself if you look at the pictures.
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    Heres another video for all you idiots who either wern't actually there on saturday, and are still tryna stand up for the UAF. Or for those who still actually don't get it.

    The woman on the mic at the start is the dodgy councilor whose building up her own crowd for violence and aggression. The end of the video shows the EDL demo that was happening half a mile away in pidgeon park.

    Quite the contrast, no?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P6EeJ5v6Tk
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    (Original post by 35mm_)
    I don't really care, that's not what we're talking about.
    I care - and it's exactly what we're talking about.

    (Original post by 35mm_)
    Except they're not Nazis
    Except they are.

    "Paul Ray, who claims to be one of the founding members of the League, says that the group has been taken over by a cabal of extremists including Chris Renton, whose name appears on the list of BNP members leaked last year. "

    (Original post by 35mm_)
    How'd you know i'm white? Why am I deluded? And why am I sheltered?
    All to obvious my white sheltered delusional friend. I'm not Mystic Meg - honest. I don't need to be.


    (Original post by 35mm_)
    I think I can see this situation a lot more clearly than somebody who's determined to blame absolutely everything on white people, and believe minorities to be blameless. The Asians on saturday acted like complete and utter thugs, the Asian teenagers (the majority) are morons. This is not racist, it's an observation, and the only Asians to act like thugs on Saturday were teenagers, you can see that for yourself if you look at the pictures
    "The Asians" again - despite "FYI, it wasn't just non-whites protesting against the EDL,".

    Too bad your mates got a kicking. It must have been a big disappointment. They were hoping for a fun day out like they had in Luton - picking off undefended shops and non-whites in ones and twos.

    Oh well - life's a ***** isn't it.
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    OMG, their was only about 8 non-whites who were protesting WITH the UAF, everyone else got stuck in the demo coming out of the shopping centre!

    How many of you were actually there?????
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    (Original post by juanmodesto)
    Except they are.

    "Paul Ray, who claims to be one of the founding members of the League, says that the group has been taken over by a cabal of extremists including Chris Renton, whose name appears on the list of BNP members leaked last year. "
    Yes, because one member being involved, means an organisation with over 14,000 members is involved. A rather warped interpretation of this quote if you ask me.

    (Original post by juanmodesto)
    All to obvious my white sheltered delusional friend. I'm not Mystic Meg - honest. I don't need to be.
    Are you a donkey?

    (Original post by juanmodesto)
    "The Asians" again - despite "FYI, it wasn't just non-whites protesting against the EDL,".

    Too bad your mates got a kicking. It must have been a big disappointment. They were hoping for a fun day out like they had in Luton - picking off undefended shops and non-whites in ones and twos.

    Oh well - life's a ***** isn't it.
    And you accuse others of inspiring ethno-cultural warfare. LMAOLOLLAGE :giggle:
 
 
 
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