it'd get him to the interview. after that it's all person
The opinion that which uni you go to matters seems to be perpetuated by people who have not yet been to uni and haven't yet graduated and been into the working world where, funnily enough for around 80% of the times top 100 graduate employers it does not matter what uni you went to, and even moreso, what degree you did. I'm an management consultant with one of the big 4, and i studied art history at a uni that floats between top 10, just, and top 15.
For the bajillionth time, it depends on the job. If they want to work in a hedge fund for example, John won't stand a chance of even getting an interview.
If you want to be a barrister there is a huge bias towards oxbridge students. Just look at the stats.
Not really, I think its more about your classification and personal skills that are specific to the job.
no. Employers look at what level degree you achieved and what work experience you have as well as references, performance at interview ect. It is a commonly held belief on TSR that which university you go to matters because most people on here go to the top end of the scale however if you go out and speak to some of the employers at big companies then you will find the vast majority of them don't actually care.
I'm shocked at the outpouring of sense by most of you on here. Just you wait until the prestige whores get wind of this...
its impossible to answer that question.
for a few reasons:
1 of which (one that I don't has been mentioned yet)... you can't compare an oxbridge student and an ex-poly student on like-for-like terms. to get into oxbridge you need most of the traits employers are looking for. therefore, to an extent, it doesn't matter what degree one gets there, because they are likely (and I generalise here, so don't bite me) to have a load of the other traits employers like.
and come on, a 2.2 from oxbridge is obviously better than a 1st from a uni somewhere near the botttom.
its nieve to think it doesn't matter.
however, where it doesn't matter is between say, imperial and leeds. 2 good unis, 1 obviously better uni, but not massively better. in that case I imagine stuff like the class of degree matters.
It varies hugely; some employers will discriminate greatly (although I'd imagine this is very rarely the case) whilst some employers will not even think about considering it.
As others have suggested, though, employers are probably only going to discriminate between candidates on the grounds of the university they attended when there is a big difference.
Is everyone serious when they say it doesn't matter? Why would students even bother trying to get into the 'best' university they can if this was the case? Obviously, it depends on what kind of industry you're going into, but if, say, I wanted to go into Forensic Archaeology as a career (which I do), a 2:1 from Manchester would put me at an extreme advantage over someone who got a 2:1 from an ex-poly (can't think of one that does Archaeology off the top of my head!) It's a bloody hard field to get into, why would I not want to do the best I could to increase my chances of getting in, because even then there's no guarantee!!!