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    op i am having a similar problem.... my parents want me to go to Auckland University in New Zealand and when i tried to see what they require.... they required huge marks that i cannot get... my parents told me its the only decent university... on the other hand i want to join canterbury university in new zealand which is the second best in new zealand... i dont know if this will affect me if i try to get a job.
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    (Original post by FAILINGKID)
    op i am having a similar problem.... my parents want me to go to Auckland University in New Zealand and when i tried to see what they require.... they required huge marks that i cannot get... my parents told me its the only decent university... on the other hand i want to join canterbury university in new zealand which is the second best in new zealand... i dont know if this will affect me if i try to get a job.
    not sure about new zealand but if its anything like the UK it won't affect you at all when applying for jobs
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    This is interesting. I'm going to an ex-poly to study and according to league tables it isn't exactly fantastic (ie. in the bottom regions- I'm not stupid, I happen to like the Uni and the course :-) ) but I'm glad to hear that the University you attend isn't something that employers hinge their decisions on and that other factors are considered.
    Really, that's how it should be and hope that it stays that way.
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    Some interesting examples here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/you/...ades-jobs.html
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    (Original post by Wyrd14)
    Some interesting examples here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/you/...ades-jobs.html
    At least two of those could be explained by the fact that they graduated with a 2.2... :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by milner001)
    no a first from oxford is the same as a first elsewhere when you speak to employers. If you got off the internet for a little bit and arrange to have some meetings with companies (most of them are fine doing it as long as you fit yourself around there timetable) you will find that the vast majority (95%+) don't care what institution you get the grade from they only care about the grade. (you can see this on job application forms they sometimes say you can only apply if you have at least a 2.1 but never put restrictions on the institution)
    lol, seriously man.

    welcome to the real world.

    do you realise how much **** they would get from the media, etcc if they openly discriminated by institution?

    im sure it breaks all sort of equality laws too.

    if you openly ask them if it matters they'll tell you what they HAVE to tell you.

    same goes with oxbridge and the whole 3 vs 4 A2 crap. they'll say you only need 3...

    the world isn't as fair and nice as its made out to be.
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    (Original post by SouthernFreerider)
    lol, seriously man.

    welcome to the real world.

    do you realise how much **** they would get from the media, etcc if they openly discriminated by institution?

    im sure it breaks all sort of equality laws too.

    if you openly ask them if it matters they'll tell you what they HAVE to tell you.

    same goes with oxbridge and the whole 3 vs 4 A2 crap. they'll say you only need 3...

    the world isn't as fair and nice as its made out to be.
    Cheers for that, I'm glad someone who hasn't yet started university is telling everyone else what the big bad world outside is like. I'll keep in mind to ask you for your pointers next time I've got a graduate interview to go to.
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    (Original post by 0404343m)
    Cheers for that, I'm glad someone who hasn't yet started university is telling everyone else what the big bad world outside is like. I'll keep in mind to ask you for your pointers next time I've got a graduate interview to go to.
    pft

    you don't have to have gone to uni to understand how much ******** people speak. its the reason I don't read newspapers or read any news. its just ********.
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    (Original post by SouthernFreerider)
    pft

    you don't have to have gone to uni to understand how much ******** people speak. its the reason I don't read newspapers or read any news. its just ********.
    So you admit you are ignorant and expect us to have an respect for your views?
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    (Original post by ChemistBoy)
    So you admit you are ignorant and expect us to have an respect for your views?
    ignorant?

    errrm, in some sense maybe.

    in the sense I don't fill up my mind with useless trivia. I don't care for trivia.

    reading the newspapers, etcc.. doesn't have any value outside of entertainment though. apart from the few major stories. but these I find out about anyways and then look into if I think I need to.

    you need to remember that news programmes, etc... aren't designed to be objective, information, or even true. its simply entertainment wrapped up in a facade..

    I can find better ways to entertain myself than read the news


    you don't take the media seriously do you?
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    you can also see actual statistics that prove the uni doesn't matter. When you go to the companies you can ask for the universitys that there recent employees have come from, some won;t show you this information but about 50% will and you will see that they come from a range of universitys
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    "Employers" is a little bit too broad for my liking here- for some professions, certain universities stick out. In English Law, Oxbridge and a few others have a head start; in Engineering places like Southampton do well; in Academia the Russell Group dominate. Very specialised companies tend to take very specialised graduates and thus do have a bit more of a targetted approach. However, in the 60% of graduate level jobs, no degree is specified, and the employer is interested in getting the best candidate to fill the vacancy. Pre-assessments are getting more and more frequent, and while its often the case that students at more selective universities are more capable, you'll always get the odd one from anywhere who has the skills to match their more illustrious rivals and the name on their degree really will not be a hindrance to gaining employment, since the recruiter (at least according to correlations) isn't that shallow. Of course the general trend will be that an average student from a CCD university will in most cases not be able to showcase the abilities of his/her Russell Group or whatever counterpart, but thats an entirely different thing to saying explicitly the university they attended mattered in getting them the job.
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    (Original post by SouthernFreerider)
    you don't take the media seriously do you?
    I treat everything with scepticism, but I've found that the solution to this is to seek more opinions of an event, not less.
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    (Original post by SouthernFreerider)
    ignorant?
    errrm, in some sense maybe.
    in the sense I don't fill up my mind with useless trivia. I don't care for trivia.
    reading the newspapers, etcc.. doesn't have any value outside of entertainment though. apart from the few major stories. but these I find out about anyways and then look into if I think I need to.
    you need to remember that news programmes, etc... aren't designed to be objective, information, or even true. its simply entertainment wrapped up in a facade..
    I can find better ways to entertain myself than read the news
    you don't take the media seriously do you?
    You don't sound like you fill your mind with much at all, to be honest, considering that you seem to have a real aversion to actually gaining information.
    Though I wonder where your sudden rant about newspapers comes in...
 
 
 
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