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    Well here we again! Except this year it's gonna be harder than last year! Ahhh well I fasted today just in case and cos I wanted to get a feel of what it was going to be like this year round...it wasn't *that* bad but maybe that was cos I was sleeping for most of the day! :awesome:


    (Original post by mel0n)
    kthxbai
    lol I do that too often!!

    kthnxbai!
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    (Original post by mel0n)
    But then why do you fast, and why are you following this thread :p:
    I fast because they'd disown me if I didn't. It's kinda like I have to, in order to keep up with the rest of the family. It's complex. Ever seen Bend it like Beckham... or read Jane Austen... it's due to family pride.
    And I'm still fasting so I may as well follow the thread :P:
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    (Original post by Cheeko)
    What you just said has remind me of Malcolm Xs Letter:
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    Malcolm X’s (al-Hajj, Malik al-Shabazz) Letter from Makkah *

    The following is Malcolm X’s (al-Hajj, Malik al-Shabazz) letter to his assistants in Harlem during his pilgrimage to Makkah in April of 1964:

    Never have I witnessed such sincere hospitality and overwhelming spirit of true brotherhood as is practiced by people of all colors and races here in this ancient holy land, the home of Abraham, Muhammad and all the other Prophets of the holy scriptures. For the past week, I have been utterly speechless and spellbound by the graciousness I see displayed all around me by people of all colors.

    I have been blessed to visit the holy city of Makkah; I have made my seven circuits around the Ka'aba, led by a young Mutawwaf (guide) named Muhammad; I drank water from the well of the Zamzam. I ran seven times back and forth between the hills of mount al-Safa and al-Marwa. I have prayed in the ancient city of Mina, and I have prayed on mount Arafat.

    There were tens of thousands of pilgrims, from all over the world. They were of all colors, from blue-eyed blondes to black-skinned Africans. But we were all participating in the same ritual, displaying a spirit of unity and brotherhood that my experiences in America had led me to believe never could exist between the white and non-white.

    America needs to understand Islam, because this is the one religion that erases from its society the race problem. Throughout my travels in the Muslim world, I have met, talked to, and even eaten with people who in America would have been considered white - but the white attitude was removed from their minds by the religion of Islam. I have never before seen sincere and true brotherhood practiced by all colors together, irrespective of their color.

    You may be shocked by these words coming from me. But on this pilgrimage, what I have seen, and experienced, has forced me to rearrange much of my thought-patterns previously held, and to toss aside some of my previous conclusions. This was not too difficult for me. Despite my firm convictions, I have always been a man who tries to face facts, and to accept the reality of life as new experience and new knowledge unfolds it. I have always kept an open mind, which is necessary to the flexibility that must go hand in hand with every form of intelligent search for truth.

    During the past eleven days here in the Muslim world, I have eaten from the same plate, drunk from the same glass, and slept on the same rug - while praying to the same God - with fellow Muslims, whose eyes were the bluest of blue, whose hair was the blondest of blond, and whose skin was the whitest of white. And in the words and in the deeds of the white Muslims, I felt the same sincerity that I felt among the black African Muslims of Nigeria, Sudan and Ghana.

    We were truly all the same (brothers) - because their belief in one God had removed the white from their minds, the white from their behavior, and the white from their attitude.

    I could see from this, that perhaps if white Americans could accept the Oneness of God, then perhaps, too, they could accept in reality the Oneness of Man - and cease to measure, and hinder, and harm others in terms of their “differences” in color.

    With racism plaguing America like an incurable cancer, the so-called “Christian” white American heart should be more receptive to a proven solution to such a destructive problem. Perhaps it could be in time to save America from imminent disaster - the same destruction brought upon Germany by racism that eventually destroyed the Germans themselves.

    Each hour here in the holy land enables me to have greater spiritual insights into


    what is happening in America between black and white. The American Negro never can be blamed for his racial animosities - he is only reacting to four hundred years of the conscious racism of the American whites. But as racism leads America up the suicide path, I do believe, from the experiences that I have had with them, that the whites of the younger generation, in the colleges and universities, will see the handwriting on the walls and many of them will turn to the spiritual path of truth - the only way left to America to ward off the disaster that racism inevitably must lead to.

    Never have I been so highly honored. Never have I been made to feel more humble and unworthy. Who would believe the blessings that have been heaped upon an American Negro? A few nights ago, a man who would be called in America a white man, a United Nations diplomat, an ambassador, a companion of kings, gave me his hotel suite, his bed. Never would I have even thought of dreaming that I would ever be a recipient of such honors - honors that in America would be bestowed upon a King - not a Negro.

    All praise is due to Allah, the Lord of all the worlds.

    Sincerely,
    al-Hajj, Malik al-Shabazz (Malcolm X)


    Amazing but anyways yeap your right pure islam is amazing the one about the people coming together and dropping differences.. shame the media don't focus on that though!

    Yeap but to be honest dedication comes with anything your HEART is really in.. One day i aim to a person like that to put islam before anything but at the moment I'm just another pick and choose muslim...
    It is a shame (about the media etc), but then I guess controversies sell, peace doesn't

    I would love to find something (religion wise) that I could commit to.
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    (Original post by TheButtylicious)
    I fast because they'd disown me if I didn't. It's kinda like I have to, in order to keep up with the rest of the family. It's complex. Ever seen Bend it like Beckham... or read Jane Austen... it's due to family pride.
    And I'm still fasting so I may as well follow the thread :P:
    True, but last year, however bad this may sound, i didn't keep many fasts.
    Mum and dad of course thought I had I mean, if you disbelieved that much wouldn't you just tell them you're fasting, but then not :p:
    Or is it out of respect?
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    (Original post by WhereIsMyMind)
    I don't feel any guilt, because it's not as if I have given it up.. I never had 'faith' for me to lose it and then feel bad about it... if that makes sense?

    I guess in your case, you can't give up your religion..
    So it's never been imposed to you by your family?

    Well, not really... but I'm fascinated by culture. I go around to Church on occasions, celebrate Diwali and Holi with some friends... It's really enjoyable
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    (Original post by Alexis Carrington)
    Then you must be very pious; however, does the faith that you adhere to so enthusiastically teach people to address criticism and ignorance with aggression and insults?
    No not really I don't consider myself really pious but I try to practice Islam to the best of my ability, and no Islam does not teach that, in fact the Prophet Muhammad would be beaten and stoned by his people but he would not answer this by beating them or cursing them in return, I guess it's just that I'm a bit short tempered, trying to improve on this.
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    (Original post by WhereIsMyMind)
    It is a shame (about the media etc), but then I guess controversies sell, peace doesn't

    I would love to find something (religion wise) that I could commit to.
    Yeap Bad news Is Good News..
    but anyways keep pondering maybe you will come across something that is for you.. so Good Luck with it
    but credits to you its nice being able to speak to a non muslim on here whos not ignorant about islam and muslims
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    Can this not be the proper Ramadan thread instead of the other?
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    (Original post by WhereIsMyMind)
    Aww! How come you're upset?
    **** results!!!!
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    (Original post by TheButtylicious)
    So it's never been imposed to you by your family?

    Well, not really... but I'm fascinated by culture. I go around to Church on occasions, celebrate Diwali and Holi with some friends... It's really enjoyable
    It hasn't been imposed, in that I must follow it.

    I'm with you on the last bit. I think I would make a poor religion follower, because I'm more in to the culture side of things.. :yep:
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    (Original post by Amandeep_Psych07)
    What does 'Iqra' mean?
    Read.

    3. What's the connection between the Quran being revealed to Mohammed (pbuh) and Fasting?
    Well, Allah made fasting this month the fourth pillar of Islam, And Qur’aan was sent down in the firstt Heaven in this month as well as it's the month which the first revelation began as well.
    Btw sister, it's not only the moth of Quran, but also the month of all old scriptures.

    It was narrated from Waathilah ibn al-Asqa’ that the Messenger of Allaah (blessings and peace of Allaah be upon him) said: The Scriptures of Ibraaheem (peace be upon him) were revealed on the first night of Ramadan, the Torah was revealed on the sixth of Ramadan, the Gospel was revealed on the 13th of Ramadan, and the Qur’aan was revealed (send down) (in its entirety to the first heaven) on the 24th of Ramadan. Narrated by Ahmad in al-Musnad (4/107) and classed as hasan by al-Albaani in al-Silsilah al-Saheehah (1575).
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    (Original post by mel0n)
    True, but last year, however bad this may sound, i didn't keep many fasts.
    Mum and dad of course thought I had I mean, if you disbelieved that much wouldn't you just tell them you're fasting, but then not :p:
    Or is it out of respect?
    Yeah, last year I did the first week and then gave up and implied to people that I did more than I actually did :P:
    It's less my parents (As they're too effing lazy to fast) it's more like Uncles/Aunts making out how much better they are than me because they fasted more.
    So did you just lie about your fasts?! :P:
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    (Original post by Cheeko)
    Yeap Bad news Is Good News..
    but anyways keep pondering maybe you will come across something that is for you.. so Good Luck with it
    but credits to you its nice being able to speak to a non muslim on here whos not ignorant about islam and muslims
    Thanks

    It's nice too, because I get to learn something and it also helps me understand my Muslim friends a little better, so if anything I can be a little more supportive. :woo:
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    (Original post by WhereIsMyMind)
    It hasn't been imposed, in that I must follow it.

    I'm with you on the last bit. I think I would make a poor religion follower, because I'm more in to the culture side of things.. :yep:
    I'd love to pick and choose bits out of a religion to form a brand new one - but I don't think it works like that :rolleyes:

    So you're into ethnic culture?
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    i just don't understand how you can go for so long without a drink! especially in the summer, i'm forever getting pints of squash!
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    (Original post by TheButtylicious)
    Yeah, last year I did the first week and then gave up and implied to people that I did more than I actually did :P:
    It's less my parents (As they're too effing lazy to fast) it's more like Uncles/Aunts making out how much better they are than me because they fasted more.
    So did you just lie about your fasts?! :P:
    I feel so ashamed LOL. Yeah they thought I fasted some, others I just told them I didn't :puppyeyes:
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    (Original post by Sine)
    **** results!!!!
    Aww! AS or A2s?

    I know it doesn't help me saying this, but try not to let it get you down too much. Aren't you able to resit or get your papers back to see where you messed up?

    (I don't pray, but if I did, I would pray that things work out for you :yep:)
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    (Original post by WhereIsMyMind)
    Thanks

    It's nice too, because I get to learn something and it also helps me understand my Muslim friends a little better, so if anything I can be a little more supportive. :woo:
    Feel free to help me through this ruddy month
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    (Original post by mel0n)
    Can this not be the proper Ramadan thread instead of the other?
    One will eventually die down anyway.
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    Back from taraweeh :hat2:
 
 
 
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