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    I'm on Wiki's page for Palestine:


    Palestine (Greek: Παλαιστίνη, Palaistinē; Latin: Palaestina; Hebrew: ארץ־ישראל‎, Ereẓ Yisra'el; formerly also פלשׂתינה, Palestina; Arabic: فلسطين‎ Filasṭīn, Falasṭīn, Filisṭīn)


    Hebrew: Erez Yisra'el

    First: Is that a typo for Eretz Yisrael? I googled Erez and it keeps trying to go back to Eretz, plus I've never hearf of Erez Yisrael, only Eretz.

    Second: Why would Palestine be known as Erez Yisrael? That means 'land of Israel', but Palestine was known as Palestine since Roman times... no?

    Well confused.
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    I would imagine it might have something to do with this:

    (Original post by Wikipedia)
    Some other terms that have been used to refer to all or part of this land include Canaan, Greater Israel, Greater Syria, the Holy Land, Iudaea Province, Judea, Israel, "Israel HaShlema", Kingdom of Israel, Kingdom of Jerusalem, Land of Israel (Eretz Yisrael or Ha'aretz), Levant, Retenu (Ancient Egyptian), Southern Syria, and Syria Palestina.
    (From the "Origin of Name" section of the Wikipedia article you mentioned).
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    First its a typo.
    Second doesnt it just say after Erez Yisrael formerly also Palestina.
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    Was the Hebrew name for the British Mandate, I believe.
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    Wikipedia pages can be altered and edited by members of the public - thus this may be someones idea of a joke or human error via typo?

    Although I'm sure there's some logical reasoning to this.
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    Because the section of land on which Israel currently stands used to be known as Palestine.
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    And yes, "Eretz" is how you would speak the word which written in hebrew means "The land of"
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    (Original post by Altruistic1)
    Because the section of land on which Israel currently stands used to be known as Palestine.
    :facepalm: O rli... I hadn't quite realised that!

    No but srsly... Israel did not exist until 1948, so prior to that it was Palestine. I find it hard to understand why the land of Palestine would ever have been known as the land of Israel, or Eretz Israel, prior to 1948.
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    (Original post by Altruistic1)
    And yes, "Eretz" is how you would speak the word which written in hebrew means "The land of"

    I know Ererz means "The land of", I was just asking if Erez was a word in Hebrew I didn't know, or if it was infact a poor transliteration.

    My Hebrew is understandably rusty.
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    (Original post by Bubbles*de*Milo)
    :facepalm: O rli... I hadn't quite realised that!

    No but srsly... Israel did not exist until 1948, so prior to that it was Palestine. I find it hard to understand why the land of Palestine would ever have been known as the land of Israel, or Eretz Israel, prior to 1948.
    Erm, because it was called Israel before the Romans renamed it.
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    (Original post by Bismarck)
    Erm, before it was called Israel before the Romans renamed it.
    Yeah, I know that. But that goes back a few thousand years.

    Between then and 1948 though, it was Palestine. I even said that in my OP.
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    (Original post by Bubbles*de*Milo)
    Yeah, I know that. But that goes back a few thousand years.

    Between then and 1948 though, it was Palestine. I even said that in my OP.
    Presumably at least some Jews wouldn't use the Roman name considering that the sole purpose of the name was to punish the Jews for revolting against Rome.
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    (Original post by Bubbles*de*Milo)
    :facepalm: O rli... I hadn't quite realised that!

    No but srsly... Israel did not exist until 1948, so prior to that it was Palestine. I find it hard to understand why the land of Palestine would ever have been known as the land of Israel, or Eretz Israel, prior to 1948.
    That thing you quoted says nothing about 1948 though? I would think it's just like calling England "Albion" or Albion "England".. exactly the same thing, despite the time of establishment... if that's what you're asking?

    And yes, Erez is a hebrew word.. more specifically, a name.
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    (Original post by Altruistic1)
    That thing you quoted says nothing about 1948 though? I would think it's just like calling England "Albion" or Albion "England".. exactly the same thing, despite the time of establishment... if that's what you're asking?

    And yes, Erez is a hebrew word.. more specifically, a name.


    I was just asking why anyone would have called Palestine, Israel, before the creation of Israel. Though I suppose Bismarck has sort of answered.

    It doesn't mention 1948... so? It doesn't have to, I don't understand what you mean.
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    (Original post by Bubbles*de*Milo)


    I was just asking why anyone would have called Palestine, Israel, before the creation of Israel. Though I suppose Bismarck has sort of answered.

    It doesn't mention 1948... so? It doesn't have to, I don't understand what you mean.
    Just remembered the real answer. Eretz Israel is also the Hebrew equivalent to "Greater Israel" (not a direct translation). Those who support the creation of a Greater Israel believe Palestine should be a part of that country.
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    (Original post by Bismarck)
    Just remembered the real answer. Eretz Israel is also the Hebrew equivalent to "Greater Israel" (not a direct translation). Those who support the creation of a Greater Israel believe Palestine should be a part of that country.

    So Gaza strip/West bank can be known as Eretz Israel?
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    (Original post by Bubbles*de*Milo)
    So Gaza strip/West bank can be known as Eretz Israel?
    Everything from the original Jewish kingdoms of Israel and Judea would be considered "Eretz Yisrael". That includes modern-day Israel, Palestine, and small parts of Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, and Syria.

    http://www.shunpiking.com/ol0306/ima...aterIsreal.gif

    By the way, Erez is spelled with a dot below the z on the wiki, which means it's pronounced "ts" (i.e. same as Eretz).
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    (Original post by Bismarck)
    Everything from the original Jewish kingdoms of Israel and Judea would be considered "Eretz Yisrael". That includes modern-day Israel, Palestine, and small parts of Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, and Syria.

    http://www.shunpiking.com/ol0306/ima...aterIsreal.gif

    By the way, Erez is spelled with a dot below the z on the wiki, which means it's pronounced "ts" (i.e. same as Eretz).
    So pretty much Transjordan then.

    Gotcha.
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    (Original post by Bubbles*de*Milo)
    So pretty much Transjordan then.

    Gotcha.
    Not really. Most of what's now Jordan was not part of the two Jewish kingdoms.
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    (Original post by Bismarck)
    Not really. Most of what's now Jordan was not part of the two Jewish kingdoms.
    Oh.

    Really?

    My bad... lol my history isn't up to scratch. :o:
 
 
 
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