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    Which parts of Britain would be considered the heartlands of the British army, and why? I've heard the west of scotland is a strong supplier of personnel, makes me wonder why this is the case?
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    Because the West of Scotland has a high proportion of youths who have very few options in their lives in the way of employment or further education, making them easy prey for the British Army's recruiters. For example, last year, Armed Forces recruiters visited a High School in a disadvantaged part of Govan over two dozen times.
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    I imagine the places with the bleakest job prospects are those where joining the army is most attractive (I read about a geezer in the paper from Cornwall who joined a while back because, in the area, the army presented the only decent jobs available)
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    (Original post by Klezmatic)
    Because the West of Scotland has a high proportion of youths who have very few options in their lives in the way of employment or further education, making them easy prey for the British Army's recruiters. For example, last year, Armed Forces recruiters visited a High School in a disadvantaged part of Govan over two dozen times.
    Do you think Rangers FC fans are seen as easy prey? Hence heavy recruitment in Govan.
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    Having grown up in North Ayrshire(West of Scotland), I agree with what Klezmatic said, 3 people from my class of 20 left to join the army and about 20 people in the year dropped out at the end of 3rd year to join.

    It really isn't suprising as only 2 people from my class will make it to university, me being one of them(hopefully).
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    (Original post by ScotlandStandUp)
    Having grown up in North Ayrshire(West of Scotland), I agree with what Klezmatic said, 3 people from my class of 20 left to join the army and about 20 people in the year dropped out at the end of 3rd year to join.

    It really isn't suprising as only 2 people from my class will make it to university, me being one of them(hopefully).
    Would you say the culture prevalent amongst Rangers fans (waving union flags etc) is a reason? Were those 2 big Rangers fans? Are you?
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    (Original post by Fusion)
    Would you say the culture prevalent amongst Rangers fans (waving union flags etc) is a reason? Were those 2 big Rangers fans? Are you?
    I'd say the majority of the Scots in the armed forces are protestants or huns, the 3 from my class were all huns yes. No I'm not a hun check sig.
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    (Original post by ScotlandStandUp)
    I'd say the majority of the Scots in the armed forces are protestants or huns, the 3 from my class were all huns yes. No I'm not a hun check sig.
    You must be a minority being a scottish nationalist Celtic fan wanting to join the British army?
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    (Original post by Fusion)
    You must be a minority being a scottish nationalist Celtic fan wanting to join the British army?
    I never said I wanted to join the army.
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    (Original post by Klezmatic)
    Because the West of Scotland has a high proportion of youths who have very few options in their lives in the way of employment or further education, making them easy prey for the British Army's recruiters. For example, last year, Armed Forces recruiters visited a High School in a disadvantaged part of Govan over two dozen times.
    Typical socialist ********. Prey? Don't make me laugh, the British Army provides careers (and good careers at that) to people who otherwise would have very little or nothing.

    Behind our troops or in front of them I say.
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    (Original post by ScotlandStandUp)
    I never said I wanted to join the army.
    Sorry, I misread post 5. But could you List specific parts of west scotland that have strong links with the BA?
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    (Original post by SH777)
    Typical socialist ********. Prey? Don't make me laugh, the British Army provides careers (and good careers at that) to people who otherwise would have very little or nothing.

    Behind our troops or in front of them I say.
    That's debatable, I like the idea of keeping kids off the streets by giving them something to do, but sending them to the frontline to kill someone isn't really what I had in mind, army veterans have absolutely no future when they finish their service and are left behind, like they were at the start. Used and abused is what the BA does to people.
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    (Original post by Fusion)
    Sorry, I misread post 5. But could you List specific parts of west scotland that have strong links with the BA?
    I'd say North, South and East Ayrshire all produce many army recruits. Govan would be another one, as are most of the bad areas of Glasgow.

    There are no specific parts, it's really all over the place.
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    (Original post by SH777)
    Typical socialist ********. Prey? Don't make me laugh, the British Army provides careers (and good careers at that) to people who otherwise would have very little or nothing.

    Behind our troops or in front of them I say.
    That's debatable, I like the idea of keeping kids off the streets by giving them something to do, but sending them to the frontline to kill someone isn't really what I had in mind, army veterans have absolutely no future when they finish their service and are left behind, like they were at the start. Used and abused is what the BA does to people.

    You both have valid points. The army does provide lots of youth with a respectable job they can be proud of and makes them feel like a valued member of society. But some of the ways the army recruits is rather suspect. They do target under developed areas and have rather strong properganda. Many veterans do have jobs to go into when they leave the army especially if they take a trade. But i feel that to join the army should be a presonal choise not because its the only avaliable job around
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    My cousin is in the army and he loves it. He has been on many skiing trips and a couple of years ago he went on a canoeing trip to Alaska where he met the woman that is now his wife. My cousin is an officer, things are easier for commissioned soldiers.
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    (Original post by liamd-33)
    That's debatable, I like the idea of keeping kids off the streets by giving them something to do, but sending them to the frontline to kill someone isn't really what I had in mind, army veterans have absolutely no future when they finish their service and are left behind, like they were at the start. Used and abused is what the BA does to people.

    You both have valid points. The army does provide lots of youth with a respectable job they can be proud of and makes them feel like a valued member of society. But some of the ways the army recruits is rather suspect. They do target under developed areas and have rather strong properganda. Many veterans do have jobs to go into when they leave the army especially if they take a trade. But i feel that to join the army should be a presonal choise not because its the only avaliable job around
    It isn't that fault of the Army that there are no other jobs around. I would blame the government personally. I might also throw out there that the Army doesn't use and abuse, the pension is very good and there is a career to be made of it if you want it. If you join the army you know the risks and you know the lifestyle. I've looked at joining the forces and they make sure you know exactly what to expect - it's hardly like they lie to recruit people who are then just used as cannon fodder. The biggest issue in the armed forces is under-funding, which is the fault of the labour government. The Army still has to fight, but isn't given enough money to properly pay it's soldiers or look after them.

    A traffic warden earns several thousand pounds more than a front line soldier for **** sake, how often do they get shot at? The government needs to sort themselves out and give the forces a decent budget.
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    (Original post by ScotlandStandUp)
    army veterans have absolutely no future when they finish their service and are left behind, like they were at the start.
    Unless they are in a trade to begin with or learn a trade before they get out.
    Others get a college or university degree before getting out.
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    Hounslow High Street, they've opened a snazzy showroom already
    It looks more like a branch of habitat than a recruitment centre
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    (Original post by Fusion)
    Which parts of Britain would be considered the heartlands of the British army, and why? I've heard the west of scotland is a strong supplier of personnel, makes me wonder why this is the case?
    The West of Scotland is an odd place. There are massive disparities in wealth crammed into a relatively small geographical area - some of the richest communities in Scotland sat beside some of the poorest in Britain. I suppose yes, poverty and lack of other opportunities is a factor for those people seeking to enter as private soldiers. The Army will very often take on people who wouldn't easily find careers elsewhere.

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    Do you think Rangers FC fans are seen as easy prey? Hence heavy recruitment in Govan.
    No more so than any other similar area or group. Frankly I'm not sure I'd call what the Rangers fan do on the terraces 'patriotism' in any real sense, just tribalism.

    Of course they'd sign up tomorrow if there was a large scale invasion of Parkhead... or East Belfast...
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    (Original post by SH777)
    Typical socialist ********. Prey? Don't make me laugh, the British Army provides careers (and good careers at that) to people who otherwise would have very little or nothing.

    Behind our troops or in front of them I say.
    Charming, your definition of a good career is returning home in a coffin at the age of 19. And if, perhaps, you're lucky enough to survive, they'll claw back the compensation you're owed after having your leg blown off in the service of British imperialism.
 
 
 
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