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    (Original post by G8D)
    S2 only had power.
    Sensation has a better UI and better aesthetics.

    My views on the Sensation are purely opinion, obviously.
    so i'm guessing you'd go for the sensation?
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    (Original post by abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz)
    so i'm guessing you'd go for the sensation?
    If I were a non-root user, yes.

    As a root user... I have no clue.
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    (Original post by abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz)
    from a non-rooting point of view, what's better the samsung galaxy s2 or htc sensation? I say non-rooting point of view because i expect much of the reason why the s2 has got everyone drooling is because of the raw processing power as opposed to what the phone comes in stock - what else sets apart the s2 from the sensation?
    Well you're going to get different responses from different people (obviously) but I'd go with the galaxy S 2. I know they have slightly different internals (in terms of the GPU/CPU(?)) but they are clocked the same (1.2ghz). For an average consumer, I don't think you'll be able to tell the difference between the two performances.

    From a build standpoint, the GS2 is thinner and lighter and some people might not like that and want a sturdier, heavier Sensation. Personally after owning the Captivate as my first Android phone, I will go straight for the Galaxy S 2. One of the main benefits of having a phone that is very light and made of plastic is the fact that it has almost no mass.
    This means you'll be able to drop it multiple times without it really breaking. It's made of plastic and plastic will do a great job at absorbing impact. Other phones like the iPhone 4 feel great in the hand and are of good build quality, however many people drop them one time and they break because they are made of glass/aluminium, which although feel great make the phone too strong and not touch enough.

    Strength: How much it can withstand force before bending/breaking
    Toughness: How much it can bend without breaking.
    eg: Glass = high strength, low toughness. Hard to bend but if you do, it will break.
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    (Original post by Absinth)
    Help!

    Trying to download this app, but in my notifications screen it's stuck as (1 downloading, 0 downloaded, 0 installed).

    Can anyone help? Will rep.
    Are you downloading through Wi-Fi or mobile data? Cancel the download from the market, connect to Wi-Fi and retry. If that fails...

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    (Original post by abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz)
    what in the world possessed you to buy an LG? :p:
    Dual Core CPU
    Tegra GPU
    £25/month contract with no upfront fees

    It's a bloody good phone when it works and I do have the feeling LG is not responsible for the issue. I think it's nVidia's fault, as the Artix and other Tegra devices are having the same issues. Granted, LG can't build an Android ROM for love nor money, but that's where my good friends at Cyanogen come in
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    (Original post by G8D)
    If I were a non-root user, yes.

    As a root user... I have no clue.
    Both phones will root I reckon.

    However, the S2 has an unlocked bootloader, whereas the Sensation does not.
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    (Original post by G8D)
    It's an old phone.
    ...ergo it will never get 2.3?
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    ...ergo it will never get 2.3?
    There are already some 2.3-based custom ROMs (with and without Sense) for the Desire on xda-developers.
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    (Original post by Wookie42)
    ...ergo it will never get 2.3?
    It's coming, apparently.
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    (Original post by mikeyd85)
    Both phones will root I reckon.

    However, the S2 has an unlocked bootloader, whereas the Sensation does not.
    The Sensation doesn't have an unlocked bootloader? Where did you read this? Granted I'm not really keeping up with or worried about it because I'm on ATT... but still... I'm personally apart of the group that sent their week old Atrix back because of this.
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    (Original post by Young Spade)
    The Sensation doesn't have an unlocked bootloader? Where did you read this? Granted I'm not really keeping up with or worried about it because I'm on ATT... but still... I'm personally apart of the group that sent their week old Atrix back because of this.
    Newer HTC phones are all like this it seems (Incredible S has for sure). Reason I went for the Optimus 2X over the Atrix was for the same reason.
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    Just ordered

    https://www.buymobilephones.net/mobi...ternet/9637475
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    (Original post by mikeyd85)
    Newer HTC phones are all like this it seems (Incredible S has for sure). Reason I went for the Optimus 2X over the Atrix was for the same reason.
    Oh wow. HTC though? Really? Things are really going down hill here for us over at XDA :/ I can see why they don't want people going in and hacking the phones, however if they just made them that good from the beginning, I don't think we would have to go through all of this trouble

    Meh, I like rooted functionality; if people didn't use it to steal games from the marketplace I don't think it would be that frowned upon either. Well that and the whole unofficial tethering thing. I honestly love it. If it weren't for "greedy" carriers and money hungry companies, we wouldn't have half of these problems. Rooting and hacking the phone doesn't give you "infinite" minutes or data, it doesn't alter anything that the carriers are doing at all aside from give us tethering functionality.
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    (Original post by Young Spade)
    Oh wow. HTC though? Really? Things are really going down hill here for us over at XDA :/ I can see why they don't want people going in and hacking the phones, however if they just made them that good from the beginning, I don't think we would have to go through all of this trouble

    Meh, I like rooted functionality; if people didn't use it to steal games from the marketplace I don't think it would be that frowned upon either. Well that and the whole unofficial tethering thing. I honestly love it. If it weren't for "greedy" carriers and money hungry companies, we wouldn't have half of these problems. Rooting and hacking the phone doesn't give you "infinite" minutes or data, it doesn't alter anything that the carriers are doing at all aside from give us tethering functionality.
    Yeah, it's odd that HTC have gone down that route. Still, on the upside, SE are doing unlockable loaders, Moto have said theirs will be open too in the future - not all doom and gloom.

    Tethering is useful, as is shootme and being able to remove carrier bloatware. That's all we want root for really.
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    any of you guys got the HTC desire Z?
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    (Original post by mikeyd85)
    Yeah, it's odd that HTC have gone down that route. Still, on the upside, SE are doing unlockable loaders, Moto have said theirs will be open too in the future - not all doom and gloom.

    Tethering is useful, as is shootme and being able to remove carrier bloatware. That's all we want root for really.
    Yea... and Samsung released the GS2 with an unlocked one But yea... well root is needed if you want to instal a custom ROM or kernel or something...which is where the real fun AND benefits lie. Other phones like the Atrix that have a locked bootloader are still able to be rooted;... so you have the freedom in that sense... however they still aren't allowed custom kernels.
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    (Original post by Young Spade)
    Yea... and Samsung released the GS2 with an unlocked one But yea... well root is needed if you want to instal a custom ROM or kernel or something...which is where the real fun AND benefits lie. Other phones like the Atrix that have a locked bootloader are still able to be rooted;... so you have the freedom in that sense... however they still aren't allowed custom kernels.
    Why do manufacturers want to prevent root / custom kernels? I specifically looked to see which phones could be rooted before choosing which to buy.
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    (Original post by Young Spade)
    Yea... and Samsung released the GS2 with an unlocked one But yea... well root is needed if you want to instal a custom ROM or kernel or something...which is where the real fun AND benefits lie. Other phones like the Atrix that have a locked bootloader are still able to be rooted;... so you have the freedom in that sense... however they still aren't allowed custom kernels.
    Which sucks major arse.
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    (Original post by alex_hk90)
    Why do manufacturers want to prevent root / custom kernels? I specifically looked to see which phones could be rooted before choosing which to buy.
    To stop you gaining an advantage ie free tethering. Granted, it's much more of a USA thing that, but it's one reason. Also it'll stop you removing their bloatware (though you only need root for both of those).
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    (Original post by alex_hk90)
    Why do manufacturers want to prevent root / custom kernels? I specifically looked to see which phones could be rooted before choosing which to buy.
    Well generally, they don't want root access. Root access allows you to actually look into the "root" of the folder, somewhat similar to being able to look into the C drive on the computer. They want you to be restricted to the "my documents" folder, if that makes any sense.

    Root access allows things like sideloading (which ATT and I think another doesn't allow) which can lead to people downloading cracked apps (which isn't always the case if you go to XDA). You can also tether without the required plan. Of course, we don't all do this but it is a nice add on.

    Aside from that, there are other applications that require root, such as setcpu which gives you complete control over the CPU speeds, allowing you to limit it to conceive battery life and things like that. You also can use applications like Titanium backup, which allows you to create replica backups of applications and their data, which is amazing for games and other programs.

    Now with root you have access to things like ROMs and kernels. Roms in a sense would be the.... version of windows per say. For instance, the Samsung Galaxy phones over here in the states shipped with 2.1 and just now got 2.2. If you rooted the phone, you could install a custom rom with an actual version of 2.2 WITH an underlying kernel that allowed for overclocking and things of that nature.

    The ROM was the update or shell with 2.1/2.2/2.3(eg, Cryogenmod) and the kernel is the underlying framework that controls how the phone is run. If you get the right programs and some common knowledge, you can swap between ROMs and kernels with relative ease giving you amazing control over your device.

    So that's it in a nutshell, it basically gives you so much more control over the device. The whole... I guess rationale behind doing all of this is that generally (and pretty much everyone who does this can back me up on this one) the ROMs and kernels created by people (a TON over at XDA) are amazingly better than what the companies are giving us. There are major ones like Cryogen Mod that gives 2.3 functionality and a TON of features to tens of phones.... it really opens things up.

    If you're interested or have any more questions or are looking for some guidance, drop me a PM, I'd be happy to help I've been using ROMs and everything for about 7 months now so I can help out if you need it.
 
 
 
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