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Does any1 know if the congestion charging in London is a success/failure has it reached its objectives! please help!
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Does any1 know if the congestion charging in London is a success/failure has it reached its objectives! please help!
I don't know what the official verdict is, but for me the idea was a failure the moment it came out of Ken Livingstone's mouth.
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it has been quite successfull and congestion charging should be introduced into other areas also
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it has been quite successfull and congestion charging should be introduced into other areas also
haha, no it shouldn't. It's just another government scheme to raise revenue. It doesn't cut down on traffic, the money is not spent on better travel services. It is regressive and therefore not well targeted. All in all a very bad idea and poorly executed idea as we have no efficient and reliable alternate means to travel in to london. It's cheaper to drive in than take the Tube. What a joke! :mad:
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transport cannot just instantly be improved, and can you suggest any other way to reduce congestion? It costs UK business something like 18billion a year due to lost working hours

And, London has improved since the charge.
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To reduce congestion change the timing of the traffic lights. They are pathetic, they're red for 2 minutes and green for abour 20 seconds. To reduce congestion they need to take accurate samples of traffic flows at junctions and traffic lights and work out a proportionate timing system to the amount of cars through the system.
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Do you even live in London by the way?
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transport cannot just instantly be improved, and can you suggest any other way to reduce congestion? It costs UK business something like 18billion a year due to lost working hours

And, London has improved since the charge.
Do you even live in London. The congestion charge is one small zone and companies within it are losing money. That £18 Billion is for the whole of the zone. It has been so successful that it hasnt been self financing. London has not improved, hes just turned Trafalgar square into a pedestrian zone, landscaping that is costing billions of pounds.
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and it's another socially exclusive device giving the rich access to all parts of London from the comfort of their cars while the less well of have to put up with delays and unsafe trains..
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Does any1 know if the congestion charging in London is a success/failure has it reached its objectives! please help!
Does congestion charge apply to mini buses??
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Does congestion charge apply to mini buses??
No, it doesn't apply to motorbikes either. It's stupid. A person could buy a seven seater mini-bus and drive around london in it spewing out Diesel fumes and wouldn't have to pay a penny for the congestion charge.
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I think congestion charging is a good idea: it is a realistic solution to a complex problem. How many of us have some form of respiratory illness: astma etc these all stem from congestion, road accidents costs NHS over a billion every year.
Congestion is not just waiting in queues for hours on end it includes health reasons, noise, visual blight and the list goes on.
I know the gvnt havent implemented it in an effective manner due to our inefficient public transport systems but if we stick to it it will help the society, economy and each and every one of us individually.
It should be extended to other areas e.g. Manchester, Sheffield and I do believe that inb order for it to be effective Mr Blair needs to subsidise public transport more!!

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The congestion charge is just another tax on motorists. The government has had to fork out more money to keep it going, proving it hasn't been self financing. and it has seriously affected inner city small businesses. There was a guy on the news who made clocks and had been running a clock shop all his life and he's having to sell up coz no one comes to his shop anymore...it's really sad
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Does any1 know if the congestion charging in London is a success/failure has it reached its objectives! please help!
The measure is too successful for its own good...congestion has been reduced so much that the projected receipts from the project have no where near been met...it's was all, in my opinion, another way of raising revenue, which back fired
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Where exactly did you get that fact from? I'm very interested. All Ken did was change the timing of the traffic lights to something more sensible so the traffic would flow better.
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Where exactly did you get that fact from? I'm very interested. All Ken did was change the timing of the traffic lights to something more sensible so the traffic would flow better.
Ever heard of the fiver a day thing
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Where exactly did you get that fact from? I'm very interested. All Ken did was change the timing of the traffic lights to something more sensible so the traffic would flow better.
Um, wrong.
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For a start mini buses are included, you have to register, for example school ones, NOT company or hired ones. Secondly Ken Livingstone rephased all the traffic lights, it stays at red for longer, this excludes

Talking of wealthy, Ken Livingstone earns £140,000 or so a year, got paid to let them film part of the Bond Film in the GLAs offices and gets the taxpayer to pay his hundred odd sterling a week taxi fares.
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Talking of wealthy, Ken Livingstone earns £140,000 or so a year, got paid to let them film part of the Bond Film in the GLAs offices and gets the taxpayer to pay his hundred odd sterling a week taxi fares.
Plus he was once a well dodgy politician. Damn the man. Funny how people forget.

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Ever heard of the fiver a day thing
What about it?
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