Any Imperial College graduates planning to come to Canada??

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Jason Brown
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Hi,

I am an Imperial College graduate. Guess what I am now??

Security guard... in Toronto...

Life sucks.. good luck.

Thanks..
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Abdul Rehman
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How the hell did you manage that? What did you study at IC?
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Jason Brown
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"Abdul Rehman" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
[q1]> How the hell did you manage that? What did you study at IC?[/q1]
Information Systems Engineering (3-year). Passed within top 5 in the batch.

And here I have to say I have only high school to get any job.

I should have gone to North America instead of UK. I realized it late..

JB.
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Jason Brown
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[q1]> And here I have to say I have only high school to get any job[/q1]

any in this case - odd jobs as most of the professional jobs in the IT field have dried up...
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Gaurav Sharma
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"Jason Brown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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[q1]> Hi,[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> I am an Imperial College graduate. Guess what I am now??[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> Security guard... in Toronto...[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> Life sucks.. good luck.[/q1]
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[q1]> Thanks..[/q1]

Aww, come on, cheer up, canada's not that bad.

G.Sharma.
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John Porcella
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"Jason Brown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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[q1]> "Abdul Rehman" <[email protected]> wrote in message[/q1]
news:<[email protected]>...
[q2]> > How the hell did you manage that? What did you study at IC?[/q2]
[q1]> Information Systems Engineering (3-year). Passed within top 5 in the batch.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> And here I have to say I have only high school to get any job.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> I should have gone to North America instead of UK. I realized it late..[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> JB.[/q1]

Could you elaborate on your last statement? Do you mean to live or to study?

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Jason Brown
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[q1]> Could you elaborate on your last statement? Do you mean to live or to study?[/q1]

I mean to study... Let's sat I at IC, I would be thinking of getting my tutors to give me a good
reference and then move on over to North America. (Of course, not all Unis in North America are
great, but a majority are very good in terms of courses and research.

check this out:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...c.umd.edu&rnu-
m=14&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dimperial%2Bcollege% 2Ba-level%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DU TF-8%26start%3D1-
0%26sa%3DN

I should have read this before I entered UK uni.

Best wishes.. JB
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Matthew Huntbac
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Jason Brown ([email protected]) wrote:

[q2]> > Could you elaborate on your last statement? Do you mean to live or to study?[/q2]

[q1]> I mean to study... Let's sat I at IC, I would be thinking of getting my tutors to give me a good[/q1]
[q1]> reference and then move on over to North America. (Of course, not all Unis in North America are[/q1]
[q1]> great, but a majority are very good in terms of courses and research.[/q1]

[q1]> check this out:[/q1]

[q1]> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e....umd.edu&rnum-[/q1]
[q1]> =14&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dimperial%2Bcollege% 2Ba-level%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DU TF-8%26start%3D10%-[/q1]
[q1]> 26sa%3DN[/q1]

[q1]> I should have read this before I entered UK uni.[/q1]

The article's two main complaints are:

1) UK PhDs have no coursework component.

2) Very few people there publish good papers and fewer still publish 'journal papers' as opposed to
conference papers.

On 1) - USA undergraduate programs tend to be more general than UK ones, so you have to do a lot of
material that isn't your main subject. Also UK A-levels are at a level which is often only reached
in the first year of USA universities. So you will have covered less material in your subject by the
end of a USA degree than by the end of a UK degree. Hence the need to catch up with extra advanced
material as part of a USA PhD programme. In the UK, this material would already have been covered in
the last year of the degree, or in a taught masters degree taken before starting the PhD.

3) is just wrong. For its population size, the UK is one of the most prolific producers of academic
papers of any country.

The article itself states that it makes no claim about undergraduate programs. Therefore, even if it
had any truth or sense, it would be odd to use it to attack UK undergraduate education.

Matthew Huntbach
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Smish
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[q1]> The article itself states that it makes no claim about undergraduate programs. Therefore, even if[/q1]
[q1]> it had any truth or sense, it would be odd to use it to attack UK undergraduate education.[/q1]

Just as it is odd for universities to show off their research facilities to prospective
undergraduates?

I noticed it most at Imperial, surely if a uni is good at research then it is a good place to do
research, not nessciliary a good place to learn and to do undergraduate studies?

adam
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