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    (Original post by *starbuck*)
    Not at all. No matter what you eat, you have to consume less calories than you burn in order to lose weight. If you have 1500 cals a day, you could have 6 bars of chocolate or 3 healthy meals and snacks...the outcome would be the same with regards to weight loss. Obviously though you would be incredibly malnourished if you just ate chocolate bars all the time...but it is calories that matter above all else.
    I have to disagree with that, though I don't have the time to substantiate it properly. If your body is unhealthy because you're putting crap into it, your metabolism will slow down accordingly. If you ate nothing but chocolate, you would get sugar spikes in your blood stream which would then lead to a flood of insulin to soak it up and turn it immediately into fat. but if you ate mostly complex carbohdrates, your sugar levels remain constant and can be used for energy for a long time, which helps your exercise regime. (i know i'm talking in simplistic terms here but bear with me)
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    I diasgree that counting fat content is pointless! My Dad's heart specialist has spoken to us about it as the problem is hereditary.
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    lol i'm on a 'healthy eating plan' aka a diet :rolleyes: and the best way i know to lose weight is to calorie count. I try not to eat anymore than 1200 calories a day, but i find that if i eat anymore than 1000 calories i don't lose any weight So far it's worked, i've managed to lose just over half a stone so i'm quite chuffed It's so embarrassing though because i have put on about 2 stone since the beginning of year 12 :eek: i was mortified. Funny enough my clothe sizes haven't changed which is very odd :confused:
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    (Original post by naelse)
    I have to disagree with that, though I don't have the time to substantiate it properly. If your body is unhealthy because you're putting crap into it, your metabolism will slow down accordingly. If you ate nothing but chocolate, you would get sugar spikes in your blood stream which would then lead to a flood of insulin to soak it up and turn it immediately into fat. but if you ate mostly complex carbohdrates, your sugar levels remain constant and can be used for energy for a long time, which helps your exercise regime. (i know i'm talking in simplistic terms here but bear with me)
    OK OK I knew someone would be pedantic about it. Bad example...but the principle remains same: calories in must be less than calories out.
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    (Original post by clairey87)
    I lost 2 stone by doing 1/2 hour exercise a day but I didn't (and still don't) worry about calories. I count the fat content instead. x x x
    but carbs and protein can both be converted to fat if you eat more than you need, so I can't see what you're hoping to achieve by counting the fat alone.
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    (Original post by clairey87)
    I diasgree that counting fat content is pointless! My Dad's heart specialist has spoken to us about it as the problem is hereditary.
    What I'm saying is that if you eat food that is labelled 'low fat', it is pointless and you may as well eat the full-fat version because they mainly take out the GOOD fats, so you get the same amount of bad fats but no good fats so you are actually worse off. Of course that is with regards to pre-packaged goods, if you eat all natural foods that wouldn't really be a problem.

    Low fat is healthy = myth. Avocados, oily fish and almonds/walnuts/brazil nuts are all rich in 'good' fats.

    And yes, broadly, you have to eat less calories than you burn to lose weight, but it depends how you achieve it. If someone restricts their calories but still eats a diet full of high G.I food, they will get glucose peaks and troughs which makes them more hungry and which also means more fat is stored in the body.

    I maintain that if you eat the right foods it doesn't matter how many calories you eat. If you eat as much fish, white meat, veg, fruit, nuts, beans, lentils, etc as you want, you are not going to put on weight.
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    That's a good point, just wanna add to that. A couple weeks ago shopping I picked up low fat peanut butter to take a look. TUrns out the fat was reduced by about a third, but most of it was unsaturated fat anyway. What really annoyed me was that the sugar content was tripled, presumable to make up from the taste.

    As long as the average dumb UK consumer thinks "LOW FAT" is a HEALTHY THING, the food producers will continue pumpung sugar into foods, peanut butter, yoghurts, drinks, and other foods, as a substitute to make it taste good again.

    By the way, this peanut butter was disgusting and had the texture of butter cream in a cake. Not nice at all.
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    I have been on a calorie controlled diet for 5 months now and have lost 2 1/2 stone.

    I don't think calorie counting is pointless at all. I have 3 meals a day and snacks and still manage to stick to 1400 cals a day.

    I found it really difficult at first but its starting to get easier.

    Not at all. No matter what you eat, you have to consume less calories than you burn in order to lose weight. If you have 1500 cals a day, you could have 6 bars of chocolate or 3 healthy meals and snacks...the outcome would be the same with regards to weight loss. Obviously though you would be incredibly malnourished if you just ate chocolate bars all the time...but it is calories that matter above all else.
    This is totally true. I am a complete chocaholic and my diet would fail miserably if I tried to cut out all chocolate. It really isn't too important what you eat as long as you count the calories (obviously 1400 cals all of chocolate isn't a good idea.) All I can do is thank God for Curly Wurlys' - only 115 cals.

    My wait loss is slowing to a pound a week now but If I manage to get to the gym a couple of times its usually 2lb.

    Well done on what you have achieved thus far. And keep up the good work!!

    :-)
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    I need to eat 1413 cals a day to lose 2 pounds a week but I find even with three meals a day and nothing else this is seriously hard...and I haven't lost anything for what-seems-like aaaaages now. Anyone else have this problem/tried a calorie counting diet?
    Try not to be discouraged if you haven't losta nything in a while. I stayed the same weight for almost month but then loss 5 lb over the next two weeks.

    Also, do you mean you are finding it difficult to stick to 1400cals in 3 meals? If so I could probably point you in the direction of a couple of good low calorie recipes.
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    (Original post by Olivia22)

    It really isn't too important what you eat as long as you count the calories.
    There are so many things wrong with that statement I don't know where to begin. Hopefully they will tell you when you study Biology this September
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    There are so many things wrong with that statement I don't know where to begin. Hopefully they will tell you when you study Biology this September
    Hang on a min. I'm ONLY talking about from a weight loss perspective when counting calories. Of course I am aware for the need of a balanced diet and correct nutrition etc. I'm not saying that eating 1400 calories in a day simply by having chips every night is good for you, I'm simply stating that you don't have to have 1400 cals of salad to lose weight. You can eat the occasional chocolate bar and bacon sandwich.
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    Hoping to achieve? I HAVE achieved a weight loss of 2 stone and I'm hoping to achieve a life free of heart disease!
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    [/QUOTE] Well done on what you have achieved thus far. And keep up the good work!!

    :-)[/QUOTE]

    Thanks, I''m really encouraged by this! And thanks everyone else too, some good points and good advice here, thanks. I'll try not to get too discouraged.
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    (Original post by Olivia22)
    Try not to be discouraged if you haven't losta nything in a while. I stayed the same weight for almost month but then loss 5 lb over the next two weeks.

    Also, do you mean you are finding it difficult to stick to 1400cals in 3 meals? If so I could probably point you in the direction of a couple of good low calorie recipes.
    Yeah, that is what I meant really. Could you? That would be really helpful
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    Yeah, that is what I meant really. Could you? That would be really helpful
    Sure no problem. I'll pm you tomorrow. Id do it now but I'm so tired I'm off for an early night. Speak to you tomorrow :-)
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    Bloody hell I can't be arsed reading all these replies! Basically it sounds to me as if you could be eating too few calories, are you a girl? Try increasing the amount you eat by 500 calories a day for a week then go back to 1500 a day.

    Have to say though, well done on the weight lost so far!
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    (Original post by imasillynarb)
    Bloody hell I can't be arsed reading all these replies! Basically it sounds to me as if you could be eating too few calories, are you a girl? Try increasing the amount you eat by 500 calories a day for a week then go back to 1500 a day.

    Have to say though, well done on the weight lost so far!
    Ah right, good tip, thanks. I was wondering whether eating too few calories could have an adverse effect? :confused:

    And yeah, I'm a girl. :rolleyes:
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    Yes eating too few calories could slow your metabolism down. I have heard people speak of the "3 day cycle" routine...where you eat say, 1400 for 3 days then you have one day of 500 more and continue like that. This way your body does not think it's being deprived for a long period.
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    fo real; carb cycling is leet. For example, high carb days, low carb days, no carb days. No carb days are just that; as few carbs as you can possibly get. Low carbs are like 100-200g of carbs, and high carbs could be a shitload. The average calorie intake over the week would still be below maintainance. One cycles the days like 1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3 or some other order, but dont put two high carb days together, nor two no-carb days.

    I doubt you can be bothered with that, but its a leet approach anyway. www.avantlabs.com has two articles about it in teh back-issues section of their magazine thing, search for carb cycling if youre interested

    --Joe
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    (Original post by rock_tenth)
    fo real; carb cycling is leet. For example, high carb days, low carb days, no carb days. No carb days are just that; as few carbs as you can possibly get. Low carbs are like 100-200g of carbs, and high carbs could be a shitload. The average calorie intake over the week would still be below maintainance. One cycles the days like 1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3 or some other order, but dont put two high carb days together, nor two no-carb days.

    I doubt you can be bothered with that, but its a leet approach anyway. www.avantlabs.com has two articles about it in teh back-issues section of their magazine thing, search for carb cycling if youre interested

    --Joe
    lol, thanks, but what does 'leet' mean?
 
 
 
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