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is this E OR Z ISOMERISM

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Reply 1
Z :P
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I'm going to say E isomerism :smile:

EDIT: I think it may be Z actually as the ethyl group is a higher priority than the methyl group, and the other methyl group is higher than the hydrogen
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E.

Z = Zame side (same)
E = the other one :lol:
E because it is oposite sides.

E means trans and Z means cis

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Original post by toonervoustotalk
E because it is oposite sides.

E means trans and Z means cis

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another way is

Trans = trans Atlantic = e opposite ends
As far as I can see the functional groups are the methyl groups (CH3 or H3C) which are opposed to each other, that's why it is E isomerism. See here to compare:

http://mcat-review.org/geometric.gif
Original post by L'Evil Fish
E.

Z = Zame side (same)
E = the other one :lol:


Original post by L'Evil Fish
another way is

Trans = trans Atlantic = e opposite ends


They are good devices to aid memory, aren't they? In the same way I memorise the positions.
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Reply 8
I'd have thought Z because the ethyl is on the same side as the methyl therefore the 2 highest priority groups are on the same side :s-smilie:

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http://www.docbrown.info/page07/addhoc07/EZisomerism1.jpg
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Original post by Rock_Set
I'd have thought Z because the ethyl is on the same side as the methyl therefore the 2 highest priority groups are on the same side :s-smilie:

Bottom right
http://www.docbrown.info/page07/addhoc07/EZisomerism1.jpg


Oh you may have a point.
Reply 10
E=enemies, that's how I remember it
It's Z.
Geez guys, I really can't believe everyone here said the wrong answer. Despite the fact you have two equal groups (the methyl ones), the priority rules don't really care about that. What actually matters is which group has highest priority on each side. On the left side the ethyl group has a highest priority, because the carbon is attached to 2 hydrogens and a carbon, as opposed to 3 hydrogens. On the right side you have the lowest possible priority "group" - the H atom, thus making the methyl group highest priority on the right side. As you can see, both highest priority groups lie on the same side, thus they are Z (from German "zusammen" - together)
its z, the largest groups are on the same side so its z
Reply 14
Original post by Godzilla123
Geez guys, I really can't believe everyone here said the wrong answer. Despite the fact you have two equal groups (the methyl ones), the priority rules don't really care about that. What actually matters is which group has highest priority on each side. On the left side the ethyl group has a highest priority, because the carbon is attached to 2 hydrogens and a carbon, as opposed to 3 hydrogens. On the right side you have the lowest possible priority "group" - the H atom, thus making the methyl group highest priority on the right side. As you can see, both highest priority groups lie on the same side, thus they are Z (from German "zusammen" - together)


Come on now, I said Z.
Original post by EierVonSatan
It's Z.


Hmmm I would have said E but hes a chemist so :/
Original post by Rock_Set
Come on now, I said Z.


You're one of the minority :biggrin:
Reply 17
Original post by SamTheMan95
Hmmm I would have said E but hes a chemist so :/


http://www.docbrown.info/page07/isomerism2.htm#Priority


Thats a pretty big thing to be mossing from the aqa textbook...
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Original post by L'Evil Fish
another way is

Trans = trans Atlantic = e opposite ends


Or you could just learn the German - zusammen (together), entgegen (opposite/against).

Also, of course it's Z.
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