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Determination of Ea question: Edexcel unit 4

Hello, another maths question from me and I'm assuming a pretty dim one again!

I have been asked to work out Ea from the data in the table:
T: 293; 1/time: 0.0250; 1/T: 3.41 x 10-3; ln(1/time): -3.69
T: 303; 1/time: 0.500; 1/T: 3.30 x 10-3; ln(1/time): -3.00

You're told the initial volumes and concentrations are constant, the only difference is the change in temperature.

Also you're not allowed to draw a graph and you're given: ln rate = -Ea/R x 1/T + a constant [R]

I know that -Ea/R is equal to the gradient of the graph you aren't allowed to draw and that 1/T and ln(1/time) are the X and Y variables, but how do you know which way around to put them into the change in Y/change in X equation?
Original post by SuperCat007
Hello, another maths question from me and I'm assuming a pretty dim one again!

I have been asked to work out Ea from the data in the table:
T: 293; 1/time: 0.0250; 1/T: 3.41 x 10-3; ln(1/time): -3.69
T: 303; 1/time: 0.500; 1/T: 3.30 x 10-3; ln(1/time): -3.00

You're told the initial volumes and concentrations are constant, the only difference is the change in temperature.

Also you're not allowed to draw a graph and you're given: ln rate = -Ea/R x 1/T + a constant [R]

I know that -Ea/R is equal to the gradient of the graph you aren't allowed to draw and that 1/T and ln(1/time) are the X and Y variables, but how do you know which way around to put them into the change in Y/change in X equation?


You have to use simultaneous equations as your only two unknowns are Ea and A

k = Ae-Ea/RT

hence

lnk = lnA - Ea/RT

lnk - lnA = -Ea/RT

1/t is proportional to rate

hence

lnA - ln(1/t) = Ea/RT

substitute values from each experiment and solve for Ea

lnA - ln(1/t1) = Ea/RT1
lnA - ln(1/t2) = Ea/RT2
--------------------------------------------- subtract
[ln(1/t2) + ln(1/t1)] = Ea/RT1 - Ea/RT2

solve for Ea
Original post by charco
You have to use simultaneous equations as your only two unknowns are Ea and A

k = Ae-Ea/RT

hence

lnk = lnA - Ea/RT

lnk - lnA = -Ea/RT

1/t is proportional to rate

hence

lnA - ln(1/t) = Ea/RT

substitute values from each experiment and solve for Ea

lnA - ln(1/t1) = Ea/RT1
lnA - ln(1/t2) = Ea/RT2
--------------------------------------------- subtract
[ln(1/t2) + ln(1/t1)] = Ea/RT1 - Ea/RT2

solve for Ea


Thank you for your reply. You don't have to do it like that though (and not being great at maths, I wouldn't do it like that). I was going down the route I explained and then didn't know which order to put the values into the gradient calculation.
Original post by SuperCat007
Thank you for your reply. You don't have to do it like that though (and not being great at maths, I wouldn't do it like that). I was going down the route I explained and then didn't know which order to put the values into the gradient calculation.


It doesn't matter which way round you have them as you know that the activation energy MUST be positive.

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