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Can anyone please help with this chemistry buffer question part b

I got part a as 4.51 which i think is right, but how do i do part b

The original conc for ethanoic acid was 0.251 and for ethanoate was 0.140

I understand that CH3COOH -> CH3OO- + H+ is an equilibrium, so i thought if 0.015 moles of HCl was added, then I could answer the question by doing 0.140 - 0.015 and 0.251+0.015 and then plugging these values into the Ka equation
However, this does not get me the right value for pH

What step am I missing? is it something to do with the 1000cm^3?

So confused
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Why don't you google the mark scheme? Just write the question word by word and you'll find the answer for it... unless that feels like cheating. Otherwise, I'm no help, sorry. :console:
Original post by KateAteKarrots
chem2.jpg

Can anyone please help with this chemistry buffer question part b

I got part a as 4.51 which i think is right, but how do i do part b

The original conc for ethanoic acid was 0.251 and for ethanoate was 0.140

I understand that CH3COOH -> CH3OO- + H+ is an equilibrium, so i thought if 0.015 moles of HCl was added, then I could answer the question by doing 0.140 - 0.015 and 0.251-0.015 and then plugging these values into the Ka equation
However, this does not get me the right value for pH

What step am I missing? is it something to do with the 1000cm^3?

So confused
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To use ka equation you have to use concentrations not moles. ph is -log(concentration of whatever u wanna get ph of)
Were you given the Ka constant for this earlier on in the question?
Original post by Wunderbarr
Were you given the Ka constant for this earlier on in the question?


Yeah, its 1.74X10^-5
Original post by KateAteKarrots
Yeah, its 1.74X10^-5


Well that makes things a lot more clear.

Write out the expression for Ka for the buffer solution.

There are two assumptions you will need to make for the concentration of the anion and the concentration of the acid.

Once that's figured out, you can find the concentration of H+ and do the appropriate calculation to find the pH.
Original post by Wunderbarr
Well that makes things a lot more clear.

Write out the expression for Ka for the buffer solution.

There are two assumptions you will need to make for the concentration of the anion and the concentration of the acid.

Once that's figured out, you can find the concentration of H+ and do the appropriate calculation to find the pH.


I did that for question a! and got 4.51! But question B is the one I don't understand, it different because this is an equilibrium. Question B asks for the new pH after 0.015 mol of HCl are added to 1000cm^3 of the buffer solution
Original post by KateAteKarrots
I did that for question a! and got 4.51! But question B is the one I don't understand, it different because this is an equilibrium. Question B asks for the new pH after 0.015 mol of HCl are added to 1000cm^3 of the buffer solution


Yes, you were along the right lines for calculating the new concentrations, except that you made both concentrations/moles decrease when adding HCl.

I'm going to assume this was a small error made, so one concentration needs to increase whereas the other decreases.

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