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Here are the questions:

Find the first six terms , u1= 1 Un+1=Un +2n+1


I know I am meant to substitue the u=1, but not sure where :s and what the 2n is doing there is confusing.



A sequence is defined by a recurrance relation in the form Xn+1=0.2(c-3Xn)

n is less than or equal to 1, where c is a constant
Given that x1=8 and x2=-3.2, find the value of C and hence find X3

No idea how to approach this


ANY help will be appreciated, and repped if helpful :smile:

Thank you
Reply 1
u2=u1+1=u1+2×1+1=1+2+1=4u_2 = u_{1+1} = u_1 + 2 \times 1 + 1 = 1 + 2 + 1 = 4

Can you see what I've done?
Reply 2
Diaz
Here are the questions:

Find the first six terms , u1= 1 Un+1=Un +2n+1


I know I am meant to substitue the u=1, but not sure where :s and what the 2n is doing there is confusing.


u1=1u_1 = 1
un+1=un+2n+1u_{n+1} = u_n +2n + 1

The first line tells you that u1=1u_1 = 1. To find u2u_2, substitute u1=1u_1 = 1 and n=1 into the second line to get
u1+1=1+(21)+1u_{1+1} = 1 + (2*1) + 1
u2=4u_2 = 4
Then you can repeat the process to find u3u_3 bu substituting in n=2, and u2=4u_2=4 and so on to get up to u6u_6


A sequence is defined by a recurrance relation in the form Xn+1=0.2(c-3Xn)

n is less than or equal to 1, where c is a constant
Given that x1=8 and x2=-3.2, find the value of C and hence find X3

No idea how to approach this


ANY help will be appreciated, and repped if helpful :smile:

Thank you


if you know that xn+1=0.2(c3xn)x_{n+1} = 0.2(c-3x_n) and x1=8x_1 = 8, using a similar method to the first question, you can say that:
x2=0.2(c(38))x_2 = 0.2(c - (3*8))
Then equate both expressions for x2x_2 and solve to find c.

Edit: beaten to it ^^
Reply 3
Calira
u1=1u_1 = 1
un+1=un+2n+1u_{n+1} = u_n +2n + 1

The first line tells you that u1=1u_1 = 1. To find u2u_2, substitute u1=1u_1 = 1 and n=1 into the second line to get
u1+1=1+(21)+1u_{1+1} = 1 + (2*1) + 1
u2=4u_2 = 4
Then you can repeat the process to find u3u_3 bu substituting in n=2, and u2=4u_2=4 and so on to get up to u6u_6



if you know that xn+1=0.2(c3xn)x_{n+1} = 0.2(c-3x_n) and x1=8x_1 = 8, using a similar method to the first question, you can say that:
x2=0.2(c(38))x_2 = 0.2(c - (3*8))
Then equate both expressions for x2x_2 and solve to find c.

Edit: beaten to it ^^


No your explanation is worthey :colondollar:

For the first part when I repeat the proces, I get:

U3= 2 + (2*2) +1, and that gives me U3=7 when it is 9 in the answers :s-smilie:

For second part I open it and get 0.2c-4.8:

Then equating 8=0.2c-4.8

c=12.8/0.2
= 64


Is that right? :frown:
Reply 4
SimonM
u2=u1+1=u1+2×1+1=1+2+1=4u_2 = u_{1+1} = u_1 + 2 \times 1 + 1 = 1 + 2 + 1 = 4

Can you see what I've done?



Look at my post above, can you be of any help, please :colondollar:
Reply 5
Diaz
No your explanation is worthey :colondollar:

For the first part when I repeat the proces, I get:

U3= 2 + (2*2) +1, and that gives me U3=7 when it is 9 in the answers :s-smilie:

For second part I open it and get 0.2c-4.8:

Then equating 8=0.2c-4.8

c=12.8/0.2
= 64


Is that right? :frown:


I think for the first question, you've done un+1=n+2n+1u_{n+1} = n + 2n + 1 rather than un+1=un+2n+1u_{n+1} = u_n + 2n + 1:
u3=u2+(22)+1u_3 = u_2 + (2*2) + 1

Your answer to the second question is wrong because you're equating it to x1x_1 rather than x2x_2.
Reply 6
Calira
I think for the first question, you've done un+1=n+2n+1u_{n+1} = n + 2n + 1 rather than un+1=un+2n+1u_{n+1} = u_n + 2n + 1:
u3=u2+(22)+1u_3 = u_2 + (2*2) + 1

Your answer to the second question is wrong because you're equating it to x1x_1 rather than x2x_2.



Thank you, and repped!
Reply 7
No problem :smile:

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