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M2 work energy power problem

Hello, on page 71 of the orange M2 edexcel textbook-example 13:

A cyclist reaches the top of a hill with a speed of 4ms^-1. He descends 40m and then ascends 35m to the the top of the next incline. His speed is now 3ms^-1. The cyclist and his bicycle have a combined mass of 90kg. The total distance he cycles from the top of the first hill to the top of the next incline is 750m and there is a constant resistance to motion of 15N. Find the work done by the cyclist.

Now the worked solution given:

Loss of ke = 315

Loss of Pe = 4410

Total loss of energy is 4725J

Work done against resistances Fxs=15X750=11250J

Work done by cyclist = work done against resistances - energy loss = 11250-4725=6525

Is it not the case, that the work done by the resistances produces the energy loss?

I am finding that part confusing- because in the questions work done by resistances= energy loss, but in this example that is not the case why?
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Original post by sulexk
Is it not the case, that the work done by the resistances produces the energy loss?

I am finding that part confusing- because in the questions work done by resistances= energy loss, but in this example that is not the case why?


This only applies when you have a closed system. i.e.when no energy is added to or subtracted from the system. In that case you simply have a change of state, in which the energy of state 1, E1, is the same as the energy of state 2, E2.

E.g. an object at the top of the hill with zero velocity has PE only.
If it now moves down the hill, with no resitance to motion, then its KE at the bottom is the same amount as the PE it has lost.
If there is resistance to motion, then you have to take that away from the PE and the energy left is the KE for the object at the bottom.

If your cyclist were simply free-wheeling down the hill, then the system is closed and you can do a simple energy balance - here the work done, on the object, would be the energy loss due to resistance, ER.

E1 = E2 + ER
ER = work done = E1 - E2

However, if the cyclist is pedaling, then he is adding energy to the system (which simply consists of himself and the bike) and the energy balance would be,

E1 + work done = E2 + ER

HTH
Reply 2
Original post by steve10
This only applies when you have a closed system. i.e.when no energy is added to or subtracted from the system. In that case you simply have a change of state, in which the energy of state 1, E1, is the same as the energy of state 2, E2.

E.g. an object at the top of the hill with zero velocity has PE only.
If it now moves down the hill, with no resitance to motion, then its KE at the bottom is the same amount as the PE it has lost.
If there is resistance to motion, then you have to take that away from the PE and the energy left is the KE for the object at the bottom.

If your cyclist were simply free-wheeling down the hill, then the system is closed and you can do a simple energy balance - here the work done, on the object, would be the energy loss due to resistance, ER.

E1 = E2 + ER
ER = work done = E1 - E2

However, if the cyclist is pedaling, then he is adding energy to the system (which simply consists of himself and the bike) and the energy balance would be,

E1 + work done = E2 + ER

HTH


Thank you so much!

That really very much helped. :smile:

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