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We need capital punishment back.
I was against it until very recently for many of the same reasons most people oppose it. But it is time for a serious rethink in the UK. The justice system as well all know is soft on crime, and 30 years for murder is not enough.
These people are sick individuals. If an animal is sick and we cant afford the vet bills, its get put down. Time to apply the same logic to these terrible people.
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/crime/s/1584745_stockport-headless-body-trial-anthony-and-joseph-jenkins-jailed-for-life-for-murder-of-john-grainger
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9431941/Kiaran-Stapleton-jailed-for-30-years-for-murdering-student.html
I am not in favour of it because I think it will deter people from committing terrible crimes, because it wont. I am not in favour of it because it I believe in the eye for and eye theory. I am looking at this from the economics of the situation.
If capital punishment can be brought back. It could be introduced in a manner that is quick, and cost efficient to the British tax payer. No need for mutlipul costly appeals as one is enough, and only a short stay on death row. Thus saving money on the cost of a whole life sentence. Humane methods could also be used such as Nitrogen asphyxiation.
These people are sick individuals. If an animal is sick and we cant afford the vet bills, its get put down. Time to apply the same logic to these terrible people.
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/crime/s/1584745_stockport-headless-body-trial-anthony-and-joseph-jenkins-jailed-for-life-for-murder-of-john-grainger
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9431941/Kiaran-Stapleton-jailed-for-30-years-for-murdering-student.html
I am not in favour of it because I think it will deter people from committing terrible crimes, because it wont. I am not in favour of it because it I believe in the eye for and eye theory. I am looking at this from the economics of the situation.
If capital punishment can be brought back. It could be introduced in a manner that is quick, and cost efficient to the British tax payer. No need for mutlipul costly appeals as one is enough, and only a short stay on death row. Thus saving money on the cost of a whole life sentence. Humane methods could also be used such as Nitrogen asphyxiation.
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No we don't!
Original post by rockrunride
No we don't!
The fact that your comfortable with someone like Kiaran Stapleton sucking in oxygen says alot about you.
By the time he is 51 he will be back out on the street living his life.
Is that fair?
Original post by dj1015
The fact that your comfortable with someone like Kiaran Stapleton sucking in oxygen says alot about you.
By the time he is 51 he will be back out on the street living his life.
Is that fair?
By the time he is 51 he will be back out on the street living his life.
Is that fair?
Yes. The fact that you're comfortable with state-sanctioned killing says a lot about you.
(edited 11 years ago)
No, no we do not.
Original post by rockrunride
Yes.
It isn't. 30 years is a slap on the wrist.
If life meant life, and locking people up was cheap. Then I would agree with you. But none of thats true.
Original post by Mazzini
And what happens when someone is wrongly convicted?
I'm not saying I agree with Capital Punishment but just to answer.
They're only put to death when they are convinced without any doubt said person is guilty.
Original post by Miracle Day
I'm not saying I agree with Capital Punishment but just to answer.
They're only put to death when they are convinced without any doubt said person is guilty.
They're only put to death when they are convinced without any doubt said person is guilty.
There can still be mistakes, it is a system controlled by humans.
Original post by dj1015
It isn't. 30 years is a slap on the wrist.
If life meant life, and locking people up was cheap. Then I would agree with you. But none of thats true.
If life meant life, and locking people up was cheap. Then I would agree with you. But none of thats true.
Brilliant
Original post by Muscovite
Brilliant
Do you need reminding what these people have done?
How is it remotely fair?
Original post by dj1015
I was against it until very recently for many of the same reasons most people oppose it. But it is time for a serious rethink in the UK. The justice system as well all know is soft on crime, and 30 years for murder is not enough.
These people are sick individuals. If an animal is sick and we cant afford the vet bills, its get put down. Time to apply the same logic to these terrible people.
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/crime/s/1584745_stockport-headless-body-trial-anthony-and-joseph-jenkins-jailed-for-life-for-murder-of-john-grainger
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9431941/Kiaran-Stapleton-jailed-for-30-years-for-murdering-student.html
I am not in favour of it because I think it will deter people from committing terrible crimes, because it wont. I am not in favour of it because it I believe in the eye for and eye theory. I am looking at this from the economics of the situation.
If capital punishment can be brought back. It could be introduced in a manner that is quick, and cost efficient to the British tax payer. No need for mutlipul costly appeals as one is enough, and only a short stay on death row. Thus saving money on the cost of a whole life sentence. Humane methods could also be used such as Nitrogen asphyxiation.
These people are sick individuals. If an animal is sick and we cant afford the vet bills, its get put down. Time to apply the same logic to these terrible people.
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/crime/s/1584745_stockport-headless-body-trial-anthony-and-joseph-jenkins-jailed-for-life-for-murder-of-john-grainger
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9431941/Kiaran-Stapleton-jailed-for-30-years-for-murdering-student.html
I am not in favour of it because I think it will deter people from committing terrible crimes, because it wont. I am not in favour of it because it I believe in the eye for and eye theory. I am looking at this from the economics of the situation.
If capital punishment can be brought back. It could be introduced in a manner that is quick, and cost efficient to the British tax payer. No need for mutlipul costly appeals as one is enough, and only a short stay on death row. Thus saving money on the cost of a whole life sentence. Humane methods could also be used such as Nitrogen asphyxiation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es9XrKTTc_4
ian hislop can explain this to you
(edited 11 years ago)
Original post by pshewitt1
if the evidence is good enough to lock them up, then its good enough to put them down.
Original post by Miracle Day
They're only put to death when they are convinced without any doubt said person is guilty.
They're only put to death when they are convinced without any doubt said person is guilty.
^^I'm pretty sure this is what's supposed to happen anyway, yet there are still mistakes.
Original post by amime
^^I'm pretty sure this is what's supposed to happen anyway, yet there are still mistakes.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9431941/Kiaran-Stapleton-jailed-for-30-years-for-murdering-student.html
Please point to the mistake here.
He walked up to someone in broad day light and shot him a point blank range.
He then admitted it afterwards. So no reason not to execute him.
Original post by Valhalla.
I thnk that the system you proposed would actually be bad. People would be less likely to convict people if they knew that death was an option if there were a lack of appeals- nobody wants an innocent to die. Therefore more guilty people will be found not guilty. And be released.
In the face of overwhelming evidence, it would be hard not to.
Capital punishment is a completely inadequate means of being "hard on crime". I have never seen any evidence to suggest that it is more of a deterrent than prison but more importantly it targets completely the wrong area.
Serious crime is better targeted now than it has ever been. It's the low to medium level crime which remains an issue due mostly to the burden of proof and availability of evidence.
Serious crime is better targeted now than it has ever been. It's the low to medium level crime which remains an issue due mostly to the burden of proof and availability of evidence.
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