The Student Room Group

Permanent dipoles - NF3

Nitrogen can also form a fluoride, NF3, which has a permanent dipole.
Explain why NF3 has a permanent dipole.
Because:
N(delta+)-F(delta-)
The dela+ atom on one molecule attracts the delta- atom on a neighbouring molecule, so electrostatic attractions operate between the molecules
Where does the second mark come from which is:
Dipoles do not cancel
OR
NF3 is pyramidal (in words) / asymmetrical
?
What does that even mean? Dipoles do not cancel?
Reply 1
Yeah, dipoles are a bit like vectors with magnitude and direction. Note how the arrow points towards the delta- direction. Look at the pictures here, one relates to the NF3 molecule

http://arab-training.net/vb/t13643.html
Asymmetrical is the opposite of symmetrical. NF3 has this this property, look at its picture on that above link.
(edited 10 years ago)
Reply 2
Original post by krisshP
Yeah, dipoles are a bit like vectors with magnitude and direction. Note how the arrow points towards the delta- direction. Look at the pictures here, one relates to the NF3 molecule

http://arab-training.net/vb/t13643.html
Asymmetrical is the opposite of symmetrical. NF3 has this this property, look at its picture on that above link.

How does it's shape explain why there's a permanent dipole, though? D:
Reply 3
Go to the bottom on this page
http://www.chemguide.co.uk/atoms/bonding/vdw.html

Note the symmetrical structure of CCl4, allowing the dipoles to cancel out.
Reply 4
Original post by krisshP
Go to the bottom on this page
http://www.chemguide.co.uk/atoms/bonding/vdw.html

Note the symmetrical structure of CCl4, allowing the dipoles to cancel out.


Is it basically because, the net dipole goes downwards? Like this:
Reply 5
Yep
Reply 6
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=brightstorm2+chemistry+dipole&oq=brightstorm2+chemistry+dipole&gs_l=youtube.3...4717.6984.0.7963.7.7.0.0.0.0.410.1060.2j4j4-1.7.0...0.0...1ac.1.11.youtube.QcKemMJTDX8

See the relevant videos there. The last on that page seems to appear helpful, try that. Also the videos from BroghtStorm2 channel are great and I've tried one and loved that channel :smile:

Quick Reply

Latest