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Girls: Would you do porn?

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The problem I have with the whole 'the girls are exploited' campaign is that I'd bet at least 90% of these campaigners are not actively campaigning against sweatshops, I reckon the kids in sweatshops would love to be 'exploited' for hundreds of thousands of pounds, compared to being exploited for pennies so Western people can wear cheap clothing. I've seen no evidence apart from unreliable 'friend of a friend' anecdotes to show the girls in porn are being exploited any more than say a supermarket would exploit the poor by giving them minimum wage because they know workers will take what they can get. Female pornstars are rich, if they were being held against their will to make more porn I doubt the companies would be giving them so much money, at the end of the day the girls aren't being forced to do it, they've made that choice and they could leave whenever they wanted to. Are the companies preying on girls that are screwed up or desperate? Yes they probably are to an extent but it is still the girl's choice to do it, should we round up every girl in America, give them a psychiatric evaluation and if they are found to be slightly screwed up dictate how they should live their life? If the girl is comfortable to expose herself to that life then why should anyone have the right to say no to that? People who want porn banned don't seem to understand that right now the industry is regulated, there are millions of porn addicts, do you think that banning porn would stop them from trying to find it?

Ban porn and it goes to the black market, and when that happens the girls really will be being held against their will.
Original post by zaback21
You don't need a body to do porn. Porn is all about fetish.


I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't have a fetish for my body... :erm:
Original post by justanotherposter
The problem I have with the whole 'the girls are exploited' campaign is that I'd bet at least 90% of these campaigners are not actively campaigning against sweatshops...
I actively speak out against sweatshops and exploitation of labour wherever and whenever it happens.
Original post by Peaches & Cream
I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't have a fetish for my body... :erm:


I am pretty sure there are hundreds of thousands if not millions who will have interests in your body. Seriously, do you know how many girls are there with a B-Cup ? Loads of them. Girls are not all about breasts and meat. Its more than that.
Original post by PinkMobilePhone
Yeah it was on a popular site.

My experience doing it was...hmmm...
well the compliments were nice - quite an ego booster really. I came to the conclusion that this country appears to be full of horny business-men sitting in their hotel rooms on work trips lol.

No it didn't put a strain on my personal relationships. To tell you the truth, even though it was all for show, I think it kinda turned my other half on.

I may go back to webcamming once I've lost the pregnancy weight. We'll see.


I've also cammed and was pretty damn popular. Would have half the site flocking to my 'room'. It was a fantastic ego booster at the time. I might feel upbeat and confident for a while. Even enjoy showing off my body and send personalized photos on request. Then I'd go away and feel dirty and shameful whether or not someone has to tell me I'm a conceited slut. Be reminded of how I can't function without men telling me I'm pretty or sexy , of how much I actually really hate myself and need THEM to tell me how great my body is. I go through a confident phase again, wondering why men would never go out with me ( I just met some really ****ed up men, and the nice ones were too shy to ask me out) see ads with pornstars and think 'I KNOW I'm hotter than here. Why can't I feel wanted?' Then the clothes come off again.

The more **** I'm feeling, the more of a slut I become, despite being a genuinely sweet and caring person who shouldn't really need to do that. I also hadn't had sex at all during the time I was camming and posting pictures, occasioanlly being called a slut. I had been sexually abused/assaulted in the street, so I thought if I am so irrisistable that men have to rape me, why can't a nice boy I like see me sexually and why could my dad not tell me I was pretty or even that he loved me just once? My self esteem goes in extreme cycles, having been a victim of bullying and abuse all my life and crucially... an abusive/distant father. My mother was never a great example as her father was just as cold and abusive, so she ended up with equally low self esteem marrying a man like my dad. Constantly struggling with mixed messages. Sex is ok. Sex is not ok. You're an ugly bitch. You're stunning and a fantastic person. When you can't tell who is telling you the truth and who is just jealous, you go to a site where the men are going to be busy appreciating your hourglass figure and talking to you about your hobbies, not the real world where people will be busy tearing you down. You could be ugly as sin and still feel validated (temporarily) from making a porno

It makes me sad when I see some pornos where you can just TELL that's the girl who was bullied in school. If she does this someone will call her sexy and it's better than nothing... Negative attention is better than no attention...
Reply 125
Original post by WGR
The measures in place to prevent exploitation mean that exploitation is a very small problem. going on about exploitation is just a poor attempt to draw attention from the fact that I am completely right wen I say that 99.999% of Western women do it for a quick buck. There may be a couple isolated cases of women forced into it by their boyfriends but the amount of those cases is not large enough to claim that the porn industry is immoral.


I suppose you have spoken to 99.999% of Western women who do porn then? Exploitation doesn't necessarily mean being forced into porn by another person - I'd imagine most of the situations in which people are exploited within the porn industry involve vulnerable individuals in difficult circumstances being taken advantage of. I'm not saying that this definitely does or doesn't happen, I'm merely pointing out that the presence of safeguards does not guarantee the absence of exploitation. At no point did I claim that the porn industry is immoral.
Original post by desdemonata
You kind of did? As you equated the things in porn to what couples do :s-smilie:


I see. It was not my intention. I just wanted to highlight that some of the things done in porn are/look like the things couple do.
Original post by justanotherposter
Are the companies preying on girls that are screwed up or desperate? Yes they probably are to an extent but it is still the girl's choice to do it, should we round up every girl in America, give them a psychiatric evaluation and if they are found to be slightly screwed up dictate how they should live their life? If the girl is comfortable to expose herself to that life then why should anyone have the right to say no to that? People who want porn banned don't seem to understand that right now the industry is regulated, there are millions of porn addicts, do you think that banning porn would stop them from trying to find it?

Ban porn and it goes to the black market, and when that happens the girls really will be being held against their will.


Sadly, have to agree with this even after my own sob story. Black markets are never a great idea even if we don't like the situation with legality and regulation. That goes for alot of things.
Original post by Little Wolf Taima
I've also cammed and was pretty damn popular. Would have half the site flocking to my 'room'. It was a fantastic ego booster at the time. I might feel upbeat and confident for a while. Even enjoy showing off my body and send personalized photos on request. Then I'd go away and feel dirty and shameful whether or not someone has to tell me I'm a conceited slut. Be reminded of how I can't function without men telling me I'm pretty or sexy , of how much I actually really hate myself and need THEM to tell me how great my body is. I go through a confident phase again, wondering why men would never go out with me ( I just met some really ****ed up men, and the nice ones were too shy to ask me out) see ads with pornstars and think 'I KNOW I'm hotter than here. Why can't I feel wanted?' Then the clothes come off again.

The more **** I'm feeling, the more of a slut I become, despite being a genuinely sweet and caring person who shouldn't really need to do that. I also hadn't had sex at all during the time I was camming and posting pictures, occasioanlly being called a slut. I had been sexually abused/assaulted in the street, so I thought if I am so irrisistable that men have to rape me, why can't a nice boy I like see me sexually and why could my dad not tell me I was pretty or even that he loved me just once? My self esteem goes in extreme cycles, having been a victim of bullying and abuse all my life and crucially... an abusive/distant father. My mother was never a great example as her father was just as cold and abusive, so she ended up with equally low self esteem marrying a man like my dad. Constantly struggling with mixed messages. Sex is ok. Sex is not ok. You're an ugly bitch. You're stunning and a fantastic person. When you can't tell who is telling you the truth and who is just jealous, you go to a site where the men are going to be busy appreciating your hourglass figure and talking to you about your hobbies, not the real world where people will be busy tearing you down. You could be ugly as sin and still feel validated (temporarily) from making a porno

It makes me sad when I see some pornos where you can just TELL that's the girl who was bullied in school. If she does this someone will call her sexy and it's better than nothing... Negative attention is better than no attention...


Ooh you been through a lot. Thats quite a difficult read for me.
Reply 129
No I would keep laughing for sure, no way could I keep a straight faced being filmed while I have to make exaggerated moaning noises.

I also would feel uncomfortable in general and I don't want people being able to see me like that on some website or otherwise
Original post by Little Wolf Taima
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With everything you have gone through you must, well, feel so proud at what you have achieved to make it into university. :smile:

It is sometimes really hard to make sense of everything, all the different emotions and associated thoughts. You have done so well. And remember, you don't need to feel alone. You are special. You are worthy of love. You do deserve to have people around who care about you. Especially as you come across as such a fantastic person. :console:

And since I've touched on the university subject. Are you feeling any better about life in university yet?
Reply 131
Original post by vespa
I actually know a guy who rents houses, fills them with eastern european girls and has them earn their rent by camming at night. loads of people are doing it and it's f***ed up.


Shouldn't you be telling the police about this? People trafficking and the white slave trade? If they are Romanians then they're illegal immigrants, if they are Polish then they can get a job in McDonalds.
Reply 132
Original post by noobynoo
Shouldn't you be telling the police about this? People trafficking and the white slave trade? If they are Romanians then they're illegal immigrants, if they are Polish then they can get a job in McDonalds.


ain't my problem mate.
Original post by vespa
I actually know a guy who rents houses, fills them with eastern european girls and has them earn their rent by camming at night. loads of people are doing it and it's f***ed up.


If you're telling the truth how about instead of coming on the internet to say how 'f***ed up' this is you instead phone the police and report it?
Reply 134
Original post by vespa
ain't my problem mate.


You said you knew this guy so it IS your problem. And I'm not your mate.
If you haven't watched "After Porn Ends", I recommend you do - it's very insightful.
(edited 10 years ago)
Reply 136
Original post by noobynoo
You said you knew this guy so it IS your problem. And I'm not your mate.


p*ss off. i've got better things to do than stick my neck out for some prostitutes, especially given my own history. i've worked hard to stay beneath the radar of this guy and indeed the authorities. i was putting information out there, not condemning it from a high horse.
Reply 137
I read somewhere Jenna Jameson entered porn just to make her ex bf jealous.
Original post by vespa
i've got better things to do than stick my neck out for some prostitutes, especially given my own history. i've worked hard to stay beneath the radar of this guy and indeed the authorities. i was putting information out there, not condemning it from a high horse.
You can make an anonymous report though Crimestoppers 0800-555-111 :smile: You'd be helping to protect some very vulnerable young women and (hopefully) putting an immoral offender behind bars.

You have the power to make a difference :wink:

Society needs you!
Reply 139
Original post by los lobos marinos
You can make an anonymous report though Crimestoppers 0800-555-111 :smile: You'd be helping to protect some very vulnerable young women and (hopefully) putting an immoral offender behind bars.

You have the power to make a difference :wink:

Society needs you!


pahahahaha. i don't know the address of the guy, it was bloody ages ago anyway, god knows if he's still doing it. get off my case.

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