What is better for women: Western culture or Islamic culture?

Okay; but it still means that the country is run in a manner that is in contrast with Islamic ideals, and therefore not representative of Islam. It also gives rise to laws that have no basis in Islam (since the Royal family essentially have the authority to invent whichever laws they want).

Is it in contrast with Islamic ideals? I realize there is nothing in Islam which supports it, but I was not aware of there being anything that denounces it, or of it supporting something which is antithetical to it.

The political system in particular that is supported by Islam (due to being directly sanctioned by Muhammad himself) is the Caliphate, which is not compatible with the type of Monarchy that Saudi Arabia has.

I don't really care about women as a whole. Islamic 'culture' works best for me. A few rules here and there can't harm anyone. They haven't harmed me for 16 years. Islam is my freedom in a way non Muslims cannot comprehend.

Also, it's about the expectations coming from certain individuals. Muslims in arab countries would give anything to come here, but Muslims in western countries would give anything to go there. Some Muslims were born in the west and love it, others hate it.

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But a caliphate is not antithetical to Saudi Arabia's Monarchy. It is very similar in terms of how it would rule.

The only muslims who would give anything to go to Arab countried are those who go and fight for isis...

Well actually, yes. In the Middle East, women are treated very similarly to how they are in Saudi Arabia.

Western Islam is another matter, but even then, generalised Western culture is more beneficial to women than Islam is, generally speaking.

>Implying that the country containing Mecca, the holiest city in the religion of Islam and the birthplace of its prophet, doesn't represent Islam.

Saudi Arabia and the rest of the Mid East do not provide an accurate representation of what Islam means for women - end of.

As for 'Western culture' being more beneficial to women than Islam - that is a rather large sweeping statement that many would beg to differ, inc. non-Muslims.

End of? I don't think so. They might not provide an accurate representation in your opinion, but millions of other Muslims in the Middle East would beg to differ.

I have to speak in general terms. Could you give me a few examples of how Islam is more beneficial to women than general Western culture? Because as far as I can tell, women are treated very well in the West, on the whole.

Lol.

Take it from a Muslim, as I am one myself - there is not a SINGLE country in the Mid East, Africa, Asia or elsewhere, that represents Islam to a sufficient standard in any way. Anything you or others will say is merely limited to an opinion.

You joking around here? Please tell me you are, because if you're not, and your level of ignorance is that low, I won't see the point in living anymore.

I could say the exact same thing about your stupid outburst of 'I don't care about women'. Please tell me you're joking around with that. Because if you're not, your level of ignorance is that low that I don't see the point in living anymore

People deserve rights, not ideas. If you think your religion deserves to be more respected than other people, then you're a ****ing idiot

They are fundamentally different. A Caliph is chosen by society on the basis of being the ideal person to implement the laws of the Qur'an and Hadith. A Saudi Monarch is born into power regardless of their suitability to implement those laws; and in fact has the power to implement laws with no Islamic basis as well (and they do just that).

I am a Muslim. Every Muslim knows full well that Saudi Arabia does not represent Islam in its laws and culture regarding women. We know what Islam entails, and what Middle Eastern countries inc Saudi entail through their laws. We know, as Muslims that are fully knowledgeable in our own religion, that they are not in any way similar nor does any one advocate the other. This is a fact.

Do your own research for the evidence and stop talking about matters in which you have no actual knowledge on.

But in terms of how they rule, its quite similar. They both implement Sharia Law, they are both all powerful.

The Saudi Monarchy doesn't necessarily implement Shariah Law. As I said, it implements many laws that have nothing to do with the Shariah, and omits many laws that are required by the Shariah.

A Caliphate is not "all powerful". A Caliph is selected on the basis that they are the most suitable person to exclusively and exhaustively implement the Shariah. If they cannot do this properly, they are replaced by someone who can. That is, they are bound by the Shariah. The Saudi Monarchy on the other hand, is autonomous, and is entitled to deviate from the Shariah as much as it likes with no consequence.

They're not really similar at all.

Under either homosexuality, fornication, and adultery would be illegal though still.