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The real solution to rape

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Original post by Groot

Is that a raincoat?

Seriously though, this is an awful idea. This isn't going to prevent rape at all and I'd hate to think what the attacker would do to the victim after his dick got mangled by that thing. You're already talking about someone that is comfortable committing a serious violent crime - I'd seriously fear for the victim's safety.
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Original post by Mad Vlad
Is that a raincoat?

You wouldn't want blood all over your suit, would you?
Reply 82
Original post by Mad Vlad
Seriously though, this is an awful idea. This isn't going to prevent rape at all and I'd hate to think what the attacker would do to the victim after his dick got mangled by that thing. You're already talking about someone that is comfortable committing a serious violent crime - I'd seriously fear for the victim's safety.

Yep, the rapist would want revenge. But the hope would be that the victim can get away before that while the rapist is shocked by the penis pain.
Original post by clh_hilary
There's nothing 'retard' or 'liberal' about pointing out the mere fact that some species, such as the New Mexico whiptails, are all females with no male; or to report on a prediction made by a leading scientist, Prof Jenny Graves AO FAA.

Just because you are painfully ignorant doesn't make me a retard.


Prof Jenny Graves is one single data point. There is no scientific consensus on this. It is one persons opinion and not even conveyed as a strong opinion. It is not supported by any type of proof or repeatable experiment. I read the brief on the view Prof Graves and its full of mighty and maybe's. She says voles has lost their Y chromosomes but something has replaced it and they don't know what. (So nothing hard to say they are not still males). In her speech she said that the male Y chromosome "COULD"
and run out in million years. All very woolly.

The hyperinflation within 20 years scenario is much or relevant, likely and time sensitive.

Presumably it gets her attention, grants and funding dinners from radical feminists who desire this situation.

Scientists also find evidence of life after death (I believe in life after death but I
Am only showing this to show that there
Is a scientist and a study for everything) which is bad news for atheist liberals as it blows almost all their positions out of the water:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11144442/First-hint-of-life-after-death-in-biggest-ever-scientific-study.html

I suspect you two don't like men very much! Perhaps because you go on about feminism too much so it drives them away, or just view them with scorn. Not really a very sensible positions.

In any case this single point admitted guess position that you seem to take as fact, let's us assume for the sake of argument that it transpires, you've got 5 million years worth of men to endure so it would be far easier to just get along with men.





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Original post by Groot
You wouldn't want blood all over your suit, would you?

Certainly not a Valentino suit.

Anyway, I remain unconvinced, and I think this kind of preparation is unhealthy. Rape is not a common thing and, as anyone who knows anything about Health and Safety, PPE is the risk control of last resort. There are far more appropriate and effective controls that a woman can employ to avoid being a victim of rape.
Original post by Groot
Yep, the rapist would want revenge. But the hope would be that the victim can get away before that while the rapist is shocked by the penis pain.


Mace (tear gas) is a much better idea than that Nutty thing. If someone tries to attack you or mug you, you just spray them with mace. Too bad it's illegal in the UK. They would classify your suggested product as illegal in the UK if people started acquiring them.

A gun would obviously be the best solution. In places where guns are legal, the amount of crime goes down.


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Original post by Auschwitz FC
I suspect you two don't like men very much! Perhaps because you go on about feminism too much so it drives them away, or just view them with scorn. Not really a very sensible positions.


First of all, you have serious difficulty in distinguishing a sarcastic remark and a serious point made.

I'm a man myself, how could I possibly support eliminating men altogether? If I truly believe in that, why wouldn't I be eliminating myself first?

Original post by Auschwitz FC
Prof Jenny Graves is one single data point. There is no scientific consensus on this. It is one persons opinion and not even conveyed as a strong opinion. It is not supported by any type of proof or repeatable experiment. I read the brief on the view Prof Graves and its full of mighty and maybe's. She says voles has lost their Y chromosomes but something has replaced it and they don't know what. (So nothing hard to say they are not still males). In her speech she said that the male Y chromosome "COULD"
and run out in million years. All very woolly.


When did I claim that as a scientific consensus? It's a mere fact that it has been claimed.

Original post by Auschwitz FC
Scientists also find evidence of life after death


They didn't find evidence for life after death. None of those people died, by definition it's not life after death.

At most it shows there might be mental activity (ie might be a soul) when the brain doesn't have detectable activities.

In fact, if you actually read anything the researcher said, Parnia did not claim a life after death at all. To Parnia, it's about death potentially being a process rather than a point.

Original post by Auschwitz FC
which is bad news for atheist liberals as it blows almost all their positions out of the water:


It is not ever if there is life after death. It doesn't prove a god, and certainly does not prove a personal god most people believe in.

Original post by Auschwitz FC
In any case this single point admitted guess position that you seem to take as fact, let's us assume for the sake of argument that it transpires, you've got 5 million years worth of men to endure so it would be far easier to just get along with men.


The 'fact' I put forward was the fact that there are animals without the male gender.

I put forward an idea, proposed by a leading scientist; and someone asked how reproduction could possibly happen without a male, and I put forward the fact that some animals do manage it.
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Original post by Auschwitz FC
In places where guns are legal, the amount of crime goes down.

Really?
Original post by Groot
Really?


Yes because if just non-law
Abiding citizens carry guns you will get more crime and murder but more guns generally means the vast majority are
with law abiding citizens (especially since non-law abiding citizens obtain them illegally anyway). So with guns in the hands of law abiding citizens, non-law abiding citizens are forced to think twice before trying anything.



http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/05/14/disarming-realities-as-gun-sales-soar-gun-crimes-plummet/

https://farwright.wordpress.com/2010/10/01/statistics-continue-to-indicate-gun-control-is-a-failure/


The gun control lobby in the United States is fronted by well meaning people who think they are doing good. But it is ultimately being pushed by people who can foresee problems in the country in the near future and don't want large bodies of people to have the power to resit the Federal Government which is an entitlement granted to the people in the Second Amendment of the Constitution. If the people feel collectively that the government is oppressive and no longer represents them, they have the right to collectively overthrow the government at gun point. This is what is being targeted.


See:

"deterring tyrannical government"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
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Original post by clh_hilary
First of all, you have serious difficulty in distinguishing a sarcastic remark and a serious point made.

I'm a man myself, how could I possibly support eliminating men altogether? If I truly believe in that, why wouldn't I be eliminating myself first?



When did I claim that as a scientific consensus? It's a mere fact that it has been claimed.



They didn't find evidence for life after death. None of those people died, by definition it's not life after death.

At most it shows there might be mental activity (ie might be a soul) when the brain doesn't have detectable activities.

In fact, if you actually read anything the researcher said, Parnia did not claim a life after death at all. To Parnia, it's about death potentially being a process rather than a point.



It is not ever if there is life after death. It doesn't prove a god, and certainly does not prove a personal god most people believe in.



The 'fact' I put forward was the fact that there are animals without the male gender.

I put forward an idea, proposed by a leading scientist; and someone asked how reproduction could possibly happen without a male, and I put forward the fact that some animals do manage it.


You can be as man yourself and still be taught to feel guilty for being a man, like
some ridiculous situations where young white people are taught to feel guilty for being white or for past slavery or for then British Empire.


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All this is going to do is turn a lot of rapes into murders.
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Original post by Another
If you think that peaceful protests and calm petitions are going to solve rape issues in South Africa, good luck.


While the device originated in SA, OP was talking as if this was the solution to rape worldwide. It most certainly isn't, especially in more developed countries.

In countries such as SA where rape is much more commonplace than other countries, a device like this would undoubtably lead to more violence towards women, and so is still not a solution to rape, as OP suggests.
Reply 92
Original post by Rainbow Student
:congrats: Indeed!

What's the nail polish you speak of? :question: :ninja:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-28958365
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This is where having a tiny penis actually helps!
Original post by Foo.mp3
What do you think will happen when a man visiting sexual violence on a woman discovers that she has set a trap in her pussy for him/bitten his cock?

Spoiler


This too, although as above, it's not really in a girl's interests to try it on for the lulz, as she's likely to get her head caved in (in Africa anyway)

I dunno what kinda films you've been watching but eww? :erm:

Tbh, with indicators that she has a sex-face like that I'm pretty sure she's safe from interference down there anyway :mmm:

Spoiler


It’s happened to some of us.. :dontknow:

Agreed, the CJS has got way too soft imo, although as SuziieB suggests, quite how deterrence factors into crimes such as rape is debatable :beard:

Erm, ok? :unimpressed:

Interesting theory. Problem is, these cases are those that are proven, and registered, as false in e.g. CPS stats; this doesn’t account for those accusations that are false, or ‘mistaken’ if you will, but never proven to be so (much more than 3%) :facepalm2:

PRSOM

So men can't be victims of (male) rape too? Mate, have a word with yourself :s-smilie:


"Pervert costumes", haha, love it (like Chapelle's 'whore uniforms')! Good luck dealing with the Slutwalk movement mate, you'll need it! :borat:

There is an element of truth in this, and it definitely does feed into 'rape culture' (a point I've raised with said movement, who naturally did not want to hear it) :blah:

If men get any more ‘neutered’ in our increasingly emasculated society then they may have to before long! :laugh:

Correct anzaaaaa!

..and the amount of gun crime?.. :u:

Spoiler



It was a popular movie and was called 'teeth'. I Remember watching it with my ex after he picked me up from work and he would always make funny comments during sex after we had seen it. I think he was left scarred for life!
Original post by Foo.mp3
It’s happened to some of us.. :dontknow:


And I have been raped, or as some on here might like to say, I got my jollies then decided to cry rape. They don't need to know anything about the situation or me to decide that, they know better than I do. Despite the fact that I was there. I am sympathetic if you indeed had to live through something like that but do you think it's justifiable for people (I imagine probably a very small number of douchebags) to constantly be co opting threads about rape so that they can make female bashing (and they almost always are) comments that detract from the serious topic at hand? I don't know about anyone else but I find it particularly crass. It disgusts me.

They should start their own false rape accusation threads. All they do when they take threads about rape and turn them into threads about false accusations is downplay the issue of rape. And that's not okay, it's supremely douchey.

Original post by Foo.mp3
So men can't be victims of (male) rape too? Mate, have a word with yourself :s-smilie:


I didn't say that, my point was that reallydon'tknow shouldn't be trying to turn this into a pissing contest. And if there are less places for male victims to go that may be because they make up a smaller number of the victim percentage. It would be a waste of resources surely to have as many services targeted at male victims as female because of the very different rates of prevalence. I don't think we need to argue that, logic argues that. It is also clear that reallydon'tknow, besides not knowing, couldn't even check to make sure what he is saying wasn't garbage because there are plenty of targeted services for male victims of assault. Rape crisis, ManKind, Victim Support, Survivors UK, Male Rape, Supportline, all not only don't turn men away but have dedicated services for them! Google is a friend, and it's that simple.

And seriously, to all those who come onto threads about the topic of rape and decide to try to turn it into a thread about false accusations: **** off and create your own threads. Bitch and moan there and leave us to discuss the serious matter of what I personally call the biggest invasion of one's self, ever.
Original post by Foo.mp3
Poor chap, did the movie also adversely affect him? :tongue:

Sorry to hear that

Fortunately it wasn’t a formal accusation, but rather a casual comment on fb from a female friend I ****ed when she came to visit me at uni one time

Haven’t witnessed such things myself I don’t think, but aye it’s pretty callous/moronic


Oh aye,he asked me if I had teeth down there once and I should tell him if I did hahah! He was alittle cautious during sex after we watched it but soon got over it,luckily! I used to mock him,he was the dominant alpha male type so it wasn't like him to be afraid of something so silly.
Reply 97
Original post by porn induced coma
I have been raped

Sorry to hear. What happened to the rapist afterwards? Did he serve time?
Reply 98
Original post by queen-bee
Reminds me of that movie about a girl whose vagina has teeth or spikes,I can't remember what it was called but it was in cinemas


Teeth.

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