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When will female singers finally realise they are a disgrace to women?
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Original post by akaiii
omg look he used the ALPHA WORD
now it's science everyone
jfc how ignorant
now it's science everyone
jfc how ignorant
Thank you.
Can't tell you how many time i facepalm when I see people use the word Alpha in this idiotic way.
Original post by TheWaffle
You could also argue that male prostitutes behave in similar ways so men who act in a similar way are a disgrace to men.
err.. no you couldn't, because male prostitutes serve other men, ie: they are homosexuals, the antithesis of the Alpha
Also if being a pimp is alpha and thus good, then the role is still facilitated by women who are prostitutes (aand thus a disgrace according to you).
you're reaching now buddy - whoever said anything about pimps anyway?
Original post by Wade-
I completely agree with you, if a woman wants to get her tits out and get paid then that's her choice. I was asking that question because it seems like when people like Nikki Minaj or Beyoncé strip down then they're 'empowering' but when page 3 models do it they're being objectified
what, you mean there is actually a difference?
lol, do me a favourOriginal post by Trill
No just no, first of all there's a far wider range of female singers than just your average Beyoncé, etc who cover up quite a lot. Secondly, gross generalisation? really. Ever heard of freedom of expression? if they wanna walk out nude, don't see what is wrong with that as that's how they want to express themselves.
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freedom to act and dress like a hooker, ok, that's fine, but is just confirms that feminism is a joke
Original post by ModYom
what, you mean there is actually a difference? lol, do me a favour
lol, do me a favourMy whole point was that you can't claim one group is being empowering by showing off their body but another is being objectified because they are
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Original post by ModYom
no, that's right, because they are BOTH being objectified, just too dumb too see it!
They're being objectified by themselves though so where's the issue?
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You're missing the point of the page 3 argument against this. Page 3 is in a public newspaper which anyone can buy. If people want to get naked and get paid for taking images which hold the purpose of sexual gratification for the viewer, which by the way is totally fine, it should be in a magazine which if for THAT purpose. Putting people on page 3 of what is apparently supposed to be an informative tabloid isn't okay because it normalises the idea that its okay to blindly objectify.
The difference between women who want to be empowering and the models are that the pop singers do it for themselves. They don't just take off someone clothes and say 'Look, I can do what I want look at how amazing I am'. Singers like Beyonce and Katy Perry sing about their empowerment with songs like Pearl and Flawless then further it by making the statement that they are doing what they loves and dressing how they like FOR THEMSELVES. Their purpose isn't to become sexual objects like page 3. Other people objectify them. You refer to these people saying they objectify themselves but why would anybody dehumanise themselves? They don't, other people dehumanise them with objectification.
There is nothing wrong with wearing as much or as little clothing as you like as long as you do it for you. There is also nothing wrong with dressing to impress other people as long as thats what you want for yourself. Same as being a topless model, as long as you do it for yourself, there is nothing wrong with that.
That is the whole point of feminism, right to choose for yourself.
The difference between women who want to be empowering and the models are that the pop singers do it for themselves. They don't just take off someone clothes and say 'Look, I can do what I want look at how amazing I am'. Singers like Beyonce and Katy Perry sing about their empowerment with songs like Pearl and Flawless then further it by making the statement that they are doing what they loves and dressing how they like FOR THEMSELVES. Their purpose isn't to become sexual objects like page 3. Other people objectify them. You refer to these people saying they objectify themselves but why would anybody dehumanise themselves? They don't, other people dehumanise them with objectification.
There is nothing wrong with wearing as much or as little clothing as you like as long as you do it for you. There is also nothing wrong with dressing to impress other people as long as thats what you want for yourself. Same as being a topless model, as long as you do it for yourself, there is nothing wrong with that.
That is the whole point of feminism, right to choose for yourself.
Original post by Wade-
They're being objectified by themselves though so where's the issue?
dumbest post of the thread so far...........
like, I only rob houses for myself, no probs right, you know,I'm not doing it for anyone else..
...........duhOriginal post by ModYom
dumbest post of the thread so far...........
like, I only rob houses for myself, no probs right, you know,I'm not doing it for anyone else.............duh
like, I only rob houses for myself, no probs right, you know,I'm not doing it for anyone else..
...........duhWhat a terrible analogy. If you, as an individual, choose to objectify yourself why is it anyone else's concern
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What on earth is sexist and anti-equality about women choosing for themselves how to dress and act?
Billy Eilish doesn’t dress to be as “sexy” as possible, People like Beyoncé dress that way because 1) The standards of her social class, 2) the standards of her music genre, 3) some brands will pay her to show off a new outfit
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