Original post by Et Tu, Brute?Actually, I am pretty sure it was never specified which context it was being used in, you simply said that weed was unnecessary, however that is besides the point. I provided a context in which it is necessary, ie medical use. You seem to think that I have provided this example to justify why I and many others smoke it, not once did I say that, I made it crystal clear that there are different contexts and in some contexts the term 'unnecessary' is subjective, yet you seem to think I am trying to take a new approach to the argument, talk about selective reading. Taking the travel insurance example from the definition I provided previously, just so you don't get confused again and think I am trying to start a new argument (even though I continued with the same argument as before), some people think that travel insurance is unnecessary, this implies there are others who think it is necessary. You do not need travel insurance to go travelling, yet many people deem it a necessary purchase before they leave. To board a plane and travel the world, insurance is unnecessary. To get the life saving operation you cannot afford without travel insurance though, it is necessary to have it. Convert this to the lake scenario, to go the the lake, weed = unnecessary. You enjoy the lake more, weed = necessary.
And no, my example is not ridiculous. I couldn't have been more clear that in order to go down to the lake, weed is not necessary, therefore it is unnecessary (agreed on this several times now), so I am not sure why you felt the need to tell me something I just told you. In order to enhance the experience however, it is required, it isn't the only way to enhance the experience but it is one way and to enhance it in that way it is necessary to smoke weed as nothing else will get you to that state of mind.
The problem here is you are using the term in a very matter of fact way, ie do you need x to do y? No, therefore = unnecessary in any given case. Whereas I am taking a more realistic and life related approach of 'do you need x to do y? No, but factoring in x will take you to z, thus to get z as a product, x it is necessary.
The necessity of getting to "status 'z' " is entirely subjective and depends on how you look at it and your general outlook on life, ie is reaching that point necessary to live in that situation? No. Is reaching that point necessary to enjoy that situation more than you otherwise would without it? Yes. Thus we have two different outlooks on the same situation, one deeming it unnecessary and the other necessary.
I feel I have been fairly clear on that point previously, though I can't make it much more clear than that, all I can say is that I'm not going around this roundabout with you again.
I know this wasn't a direct response to me, however, nobody ever said anything about needing weed to enjoy yourself. What dean01234 said was that a greater level of enjoyment can be obtained from a situation if you are high, which is exactly what I have been saying. That doesn't mean all situations without weed cannot be enjoyed or even enjoyed less. I personally think it is quite sad that someone would feel the need to be stoned for basically anything that they do. Not only that but being stoned in almost any situation life throws at you will blunt the effects (no pun intended) of weed in the situations where it would be better to be stoned.