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I've got to show that something is a local maximum but my answer shows that it is a local minimum.

p(t)=0.1 ln (t+1) - cos (0.5t) + 0.1 t^3/2 + 199.3

a) Figure 1 is a graph of the price of a stock during a 12-hour trading window. The equation of the curve is given above. Show that the price reaches a local maximum in the interval 8.5<t<8.6.

I have completed all of the steps except for the last one in showing that the price is a local maximum. Any help would be appreciated.
Reply 1
What does your answer say that shows you have a local minimum? There are two turning points of that graph 'quite' close together. You may have looked at the wrong one, or muddled up the way you checked things.
Original post by ThomH97
What does your answer say that shows you have a local minimum? There are two turning points of that graph 'quite' close together. You may have looked at the wrong one, or muddled up the way you checked things.


P’(t)= (10t+10)^-1 + 0.5sin(0.5t) + 0.15t^1/2

I tested p’(8.5)=3.530*10^-4 (3dp) and p’(8.6)=-7.780*10^-3 (3dp) which had a sign change showing that there is at least one sign change between 8.5<t<8.6.

Then I found p’’(t)= -10(10t+10)^-2 + 0.25cos(0.5t) + 0.075t^-1/2. I subbed 8.5 and 8.6 into this. P’’(8.5)=0.274 (3dp) and p’’(8.6)=0.274 (3dp) which means p’’(t)>0 which is a local minimum not a local maximum.

Hopefully you can spot something that I’ve done wrong!!
Reply 3
Original post by Ellierebecca
P’(t)= (10t+10)^-1 + 0.5sin(0.5t) + 0.15t^1/2

I tested p’(8.5)=3.530*10^-4 (3dp) and p’(8.6)=-7.780*10^-3 (3dp) which had a sign change showing that there is at least one sign change between 8.5<t<8.6.

Then I found p’’(t)= -10(10t+10)^-2 + 0.25cos(0.5t) + 0.075t^-1/2. I subbed 8.5 and 8.6 into this. P’’(8.5)=0.274 (3dp) and p’’(8.6)=0.274 (3dp) which means p’’(t)>0 which is a local minimum not a local maximum.

Hopefully you can spot something that I’ve done wrong!!

I get -0.087 when evaluating the 2nd derivative (expression is right).
Are you using degrees rather than radians?
Original post by mqb2766
I get -0.087 when evaluating the 2nd derivative (expression is right).
Are you using degrees rather than radians?

Oh I think I am!! That makes a lot more sense now as p''(t)<0 and so it is a local maximum. How did you know to use radians rather than degrees?
Reply 5
Original post by Ellierebecca
Oh I think I am!! That makes a lot more sense now as p''(t)<0 and so it is a local maximum. How did you know to use radians rather than degrees?


I think at A-level you use radians by default. Check with your teacher though.
TBH, the basic trig differentiation relationships generally assume you're using radians.
Original post by mqb2766
I get -0.087 when evaluating the 2nd derivative (expression is right).
Are you using degrees rather than radians?

there is no sign change - plot it in Desmos. There's something wrong with the q
Original post by Ellierebecca
P’(t)= (10t+10)^-1 + 0.5sin(0.5t) + 0.15t^1/2
I tested p’(8.5)=3.530*10^-4 (3dp) and p’(8.6)=-7.780*10^-3 (3dp) which had a sign change showing that there is at least one sign change between 8.5<t<8.6.
Then I found p’’(t)= -10(10t+10)^-2 + 0.25cos(0.5t) + 0.075t^-1/2. I subbed 8.5 and 8.6 into this. P’’(8.5)=0.274 (3dp) and p’’(8.6)=0.274 (3dp) which means p’’(t)>0 which is a local minimum not a local maximum.
Hopefully you can spot something that I’ve done wrong!!

p'(8.6) is positive
Reply 8
Original post by kevdownes
there is no sign change - plot it in Desmos. There's something wrong with the q

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/lf0kwfpgsw
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/dwfufxerqq
(edited 1 month ago)
Original post by Ellierebecca
Oh I think I am!! That makes a lot more sense now as p''(t)<0 and so it is a local maximum. How did you know to use radians rather than degrees?

You have to use radians if you are differentiating trig functions. It is only true that d/dx(sin x )= cos x if x is in radians.
No it's ok - my calculator shows what to change TO not what it is IN! So it's fine - as you were

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