Equality ✨👀

I have explained already how being overweight isn't inherently unhealthy. just stating that it is and saying you don't understand doesn't refute my point.

historically people have been attracted to signs of wealth. Being able to afford not to work and to eat a lot of food was considered attractive. now, being able to devote money and time to complex workouts and special diets is attractive.

Don't you find it weird that companies have to promote a body type you think people are "naturally" attracted to? if that were true wouldn't they not have to promote it?

Having flawless skin is a very hard to attain beauty standard, yet women are statistically less likely to be chosen during job interviews if they don't wear make up. There are social pressures to pursue unattainable beauty standards, and there are repercussions for people who do not live up to them.
I can link statistics for the above if you would like.

Anorexia is a mental disorder and isn't mainly defined by the way you look. You can be overweight or an average weight and anorexic (called atypical anorexia). You keep applying what you find attractive universally. Whether the idea you have of anorexic people in your head seems attractive to you is entirely irrelevant to this.

While processed foods do play a part in obesity, we can't deny that the higher purchasing power for food as well as availibility leads to more gluttony on top of unhealthy diets. Shouldn't we cut down on calories if you're aiming for weight loss? In that case, calories are irrelevant in costs, but fibre in the food is more important as fibre reduces apetite. High fibre foods, such as banana, broccoli, sweet potato, carrot etc are all relatively cheap from the supermarket for the fibre they provide. I am on topic since you mentioned economics with obesity, and diet plays a role in it. What's the difference between cardio on a treadmill and in a park? Let's take data from Harvard as a reference. For a 185lb (84kg) individual, walking at 4mph burns 189 calories, jogging burns 252 and cycling at 14mph will burn 420 calories in 30 minutes. for comparison, weighlifting at a gym will burn 126 calories. Cycling as a commute isn't much to ask for especially when it's free once you buy a bike. I will need a source for life expectance for slightly overweight people. Obese people tend to live 4 years shorter than healthy people. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-46031332
Shouldn't prevention be more important than management in any disease? Any managament will decrease quality of life and cost extra for the healthcare system so it's irresponsible to deny that "fat people aren't inheriently unhealthy". So you do agree that overweight people don't fit the beauty standard, therefore aren't conventionally attractive? BMI is simplified when it comes to overall health, but it does give a good idea of what people should be aiming for as it is easy to understand, hence why I use it as a reference to what is attractive.
People can choose to ignore the unattainable standards and set more realistic goals. Kasdashians are famous for drama and their stupid antics, their beauty line is just what they need for profit so they have their own interests.
Overweight people are less likely to be picked for interview because of its externalities. Overweight employees will be less productive if they require more medical appointments and sick leave, which is a valid concern for a workplace if their employee needs to take extended leaves often.

It's much cheaper to fill up on foods with a high caloric density than those with a low one, that contain fibre.

Hard to find the energy/motivation to jog if you're working 2 or 3 jobs or you have a couple kids to worry about. If you're main source of income is passive it's much easier to spend 2 hours a day maintaining the ideal body type. (not saying there aren't outliers, just that maintaining your physical appearance to that degree is much harder with limited resources)

https://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20090625/study-overweight-people-live-longer#1
slightly overweight people tend to live the longest. extra fat provides protection in old age from joint damage (? i can't quite remember) and doesn't have as many major risks. the ideal body type is not about health because the ideal body type isn't always the healthiest way to be. (and not everyone in the average category is actually within what you would call slim/attractive)

not sure what i was attempting to get that point back to with management cause it's been 2 days, but if i had to rephrase it...
secondary problems due to being severely overweight are manageable and not the end of the world, but being slightly overweight, or having your body fat distributed in a way that does not fit the beauty standard isn't the same as having heart disease.

I agree, overweight people do not fit the beauty standard. I don't know if you've been paying attention but I'm arguing that the ideal body type is not static and innate, and the whole concept of having an ideal body that people should strive for sounds a little dystopic.

Ignoring the idea fat people needing more sick leave/medical appointments is a huge generalization, It is illegal to not hire someone based on medical condition in the US, I'm assuming in the UK as well. If you'd like to outright say you don't care about disabled people's rights you can. This scenario is not something provable in court, but I'd assume you'd agree with the sentiment of the law.

Indeed being overweight should not be portrayed as beautiful because:
1) it's not.
2) it's unhealthy.
The weakness point is just politeness and in actuality women cannot carry as heavy loads as men on average so it is somewhat sensible to offer. Though personally I wouldn't try to carry anyone's load.
You are right about body shape, in general people do not care about that as long as the female is clearly of a healthy weight.