societal misandry embedded prejudices/stereotypes

Here is a list of the top of my head of phrases men/boys hear regularly thought out their lives and is seen as normal.

Boys don't cry
Don't be a looser
Boys are trouble, dirty, horrible, immature
Girls are well behaved, clean, nice, mature
Girls are smarter than boys
Girls can be demanding, look at that sexy diva
Boys shouldn't be demanding look at that entitled brat
She's too pretty for you.
Don't be a wimp.
You'll never get a girlfriend your too, fat/nice/short/poor…..blar, blar
Why can't you be more like him?
If you can’t get your **** together, sit at home complaining, your no loss to women.
I don't date short guys
Man up
You don't watch sports?
Don't be a *****!
You're still a virgin 🤣 how pathetic!
You must be over compensating
You're lucky she even went out with you
She didn't rape you, assault you, you liked it
Men can't be raped
Don't hold the door for me, you sexist pig.
Where are all the good men at?
Get a better paying job, your children need real support
Your working too much
I need a real man
Why do you ever tell me how you feel?
I can't help you feel that way
Why don't you cry?
OMG! Man up, I have my own problems.
It's a good job you're not a woman!
You need a hobby, not that hobby that hobby costs too much, if you want to do that sort your job out and earn more
Just get viagra or something already,
Why don't you talk to me?
You're a man, your life is easy!
You've changed,
You're not the man I married pack your bags and leave.
You give me money for the kids
No your can't see the kids, they doesn't like you.
If you wasn't a looser then your kids would want to come to see their dad.
Your dad committed suicide/ is depressed/homeless/living with nana because he was/is too weak and too proud to ask for help, sweetie, don't be like him be a big boy and man up!
And repeat with the new oppressed male victim.

So this is ultimately a little of a rant, however I have been thinking about how misandry is so ingrained into society from such a young age. As a feminist, (well, as a former feminist but that's another story). I believe in equality, breaking down gender stereotypes.

I believe Feminism was doing so well in improving life for everyone but nowadays progress seems to have stopped. Since the introduction of unnessary sub genre's (maybe to mask the extremists prejudices they are pushing onto innocent moderates?) Less people are identifying as feminists the politicalisation doesn't help matters either, there is nothing political about wanting people treated as people, tribes are never a positive.

So my topic for debate is why are women less happy the more these modern pushes are used? Also, why are men more likely to turn bad the less they are exposed to male role models in adolescence and the more they are shielded from masculinity?

Incloseing relationships more likely to fail with men putting less and less effeort into relationships which is determental to women's lives and happiness. The more women tell women how men think and feel and not allowing mem a voice to speak about how they think and feel the worse this will get I fear. Then and when a man speaks out in a relationship or in public about how he is feeling or thinking he's often told he's wrong and shut down. Because they not what the taught doctrine said, led by women. Then also a man can't say a woman is wrong because if he does she gets offended and then somehow he's misogynistic or even a narcissist which I find quite amusing! This is why relationships fail these days and a contributing reason to girls/women's unhappiness. They fail because communication is one sided.

So girls, how many times have you prodded you BF when he's said "leave me alone for 5 or 10 mins" but you keep texting, keep going and he snaps. Then he is showing toxic masculinity so you close him down and chastised among friends and family?

Maybe it's time to rethink the whole gender roles full stop including female roles, if we want to make things better for everyone and make women happier, maybe it's time men were listened too?

Reply 1

JVM2020

There should be a debate on this.

Nobody knows anybody circumstances and people should stop judging based on gender, etc.

There is a lot of corruption in the World.

Reply 2

Burton Bridge

@caravaggio2 @joelee notice you are not so quick to reply not?

Funny I expected this response. Brush it under the carpet eh? Men are killing themselves everyday because of society's prejudices but let's not listen

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Reply 3

tomclarky

Original post by Burton Bridge

Incloseing relationships more likely to fail with men putting less and less effeort into relationships which is determental to women's lives and happiness. The more women tell women how men think and feel and not allowing mem a voice to speak about how they think and feel the worse this will get I fear.

'Men only want one thing'
'Man Flu'
'How tall are you?'
'Don't rape'

Western women generally think they understand male psychology and that men are just simplistic creatures and women are oppressed victims. Female solipsism hinders the nuanced discussion required to bring the genders to closer understanding because they seem to be worse at self-analysing and objectively reflecting on their own nature, without taking criticism personally... Whereas men are constantly taught that they are flawed and need to be better.

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Reply 4

Burton Bridge

Original post by tomclarky

'Men only want one thing'
'Man Flu'
'How tall are you?'
'Don't rape'

Oh my post was formed by me litterally ranting misandry that society every single day, I've used maybe 10% of prejudiced quotes thar men suffer every single day. I just thought I would do it on a time line from birth to death/deep mental depressions as just maybe it would resonate but ... lol 😆

I accidentally hit post before it was finished, the topic was instantly locked for moderation and I was blocked editing it/finishing it and it got several sarcastic replies upon its release and now its ignored ... mmm interesting... also interestingly I can only post as "content warning" ...

Original post by tomclarky

Western women generally think they understand male psychology and that men are just simplistic creatures and women are oppressed victims. Female solipsism hinders the nuanced discussion required to bring the genders to closer understanding because they seem to be worse at self-analysing and objectively reflecting on their own nature, without taking criticism personally... Whereas men are constantly taught that they are flawed and need to be better.

Misandry isn't spoken about at all, in fact many people don't even know what it even is.

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Reply 5

Napp

I'm not sure id go so far as to call most of these examples misandry, as opposed to sexist tropes like women need to be dainty porcelain creatures in need to protection but a good point is raised vis-a-vis mental health in particular.
Over here in the colonies, *ahem* i mean New Zealand :colone:

, mens suicide is effectively at a relatively comparable level to the opioid crisis in America. I dont doubt its much better in Britain or elsewhere thanks to these preconceptions (preconditions almost) of being a man where any discussion of ones feelings is verboten and, at best, looked on as cute and at worst actively disparaged as weak and pathetic. The number of people who've topped themselves from the knock on effects of this is astounding and, to be perfectly frank, horrifying.

A shame really that this continues to be grossly overlooked, despite the occasional bit of lip service being paid to it.