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Original post by Steevee
You're opinion. Personally I think Red-Man, Immortal, 50 Cent, NWA and plenty of other 'God-tier' hip-hop artists are awful. I'm not a hip-hop fan for the most part, I pick and choose what I like. But really, it's quite obvious that people like Scroobius Pip are more intelligent than the vast majority of 'good' rappers, and even if they're not, they certainly come off as it. They don't have to talk about 'haters', 'heaters', 'food', 'beef' and all this crap, they don't buy into the pathetic rap sub-culture, and that's why I like them.


You do realize Akala doesn't buy into that sub-culture you're talking about as well? He even says it in the above freestyle. "I just don’t boast about it songs, But listen to my older bars, I was just as confused as you probably are, But you grow and you learn, Travel and f*** up,"
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Original post by Annoying-Mouse
You do realize Akala doesn't buy into that sub-culture you're talking about as well? He even says it in the above freestyle. "I just don’t boast about it songs, But listen to my older bars, I was just as confused as you probably are, But you grow and you learn, Travel and f*** up,"


I haven't heard much of him to be honest. But he seemed to be on the same sort of wavelength as Immortal and Jedi Mind Tricks, two rappers I just cannot stand. Maybe I've misjudged him. But he seemed to be all for working class revolusion and very anti-government and full of angst.
Original post by Steevee
You're opinion. Personally I think Red-Man, Immortal, 50 Cent, NWA and plenty of other 'God-tier' hip-hop artists are awful. I'm not a hip-hop fan for the most part, I pick and choose what I like. But really, it's quite obvious that people like Scroobius Pip are more intelligent than the vast majority of 'good' rappers, and even if they're not, they certainly come off as it. They don't have to talk about 'haters', 'heaters', 'food', 'beef' and all this crap, they don't buy into the pathetic rap sub-culture, and that's why I like them.


You're right they don't, because they don't know **** about that life because they're neeky bearded muso pricks from Corringham so their 'intelligent discourse' on the hip hop scene is about as merited as if I went and shared some intelligent discourse on quantum physics I.e. not very. And for the record everyone I know who likes Dan Le Sac is a boring Topman loser with nothing worth saying
Original post by Steevee
I haven't heard much of him to be honest. But he seemed to be on the same sort of wavelength as Immortal and Jedi Mind Tricks, two rappers I just cannot stand. Maybe I've misjudged him. But he seemed to be all for working class revolusion and very anti-government and full of angst.


Nah, he isn't. He is anti-government but not the idiotic type anti-government, the issue he talks about are realities. He does believe the working class are being screwed over but then again they are being screwed over, it's just about by who. I doubt he puts full blame on the government but the government (both past and present) through certain measures have created this situation but they don't hold total responsibility. He doesn't believe this justify the situation though and states they aren't excuses and calls more for personal intellectual development as opposed to resistance.
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Original post by JCC-MGS
You're right they don't, because they don't know **** about that life because they're neeky bearded muso pricks from Corringham so their 'intelligent discourse' on the hip hop scene is about as merited as if I went and shared some intelligent discourse on quantum physics I.e. not very. And for the record everyone I know who likes Dan Le Sac is a boring Topman loser with nothing worth saying


Except for the most part they don't talk too much about the hip-hop scene, they don't diss other rappers and talk about the stereotypical crap. They have their own sound and talk about what they want to talk about, which I can respect. Far more than Biggie talking about how hard life was when he sold drugs on a corner, like 80% of other rappers if you believe them.
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Original post by Annoying-Mouse
Nah, he isn't. He is anti-government but not the idiotic type anti-government, the issue he talks about are realities. He does believe the working class are being screwed over but then again they are being screwed over, it's just about by who. I doubt he puts full blame on the government but the government (both past and present) through certain measures have created this situation but they don't hold total responsibility. He doesn't believe this justify the situation though and states they aren't excuses and calls more for personal intellectual development as opposed to resistance.


Perhaps I should give him another chance, I must admit I had already written him off somewhat because he was being espoused by the same people that think Jedi Mind Tricks has it all figured out. Which fills me with fear and loathing for humanity. :cool:
Original post by Steevee
Oh please. The only message they'll be getting from him is 'Teh governments are bad! The Illuminati want my moneys and so does the government! **** dah system'

Which frankly, is quite similar to the message of most rap anyway.

If you want something intelligent listen to Dan Bull, Scroobius Pip, artists like them.


they may speak out to you as a white kid/man, but most likely the message is not potent to "black yoot" and "mandem" rather more appealing to certian groups of white kids.

The message of akala (regarding the attitude towards education, reading etc) is very relevant to the young black generation.
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Original post by MonkeyMan2009
they may speak out to you as a white kid/man, but most likely the message is not potent to "black yoot" and "mandem" rather more appealing to certian groups of white kids.

The message of akala (regarding the attitude towards education, reading etc) is very relevant to the young black generation.


Because they tell them what they want to hear. :colonhash:
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I only know a few of his tunes but on the strength of them I rate Akala pretty highly. 'Shakespeare' is the first tune of his I think of.
Original post by Steevee
Eugh, from what I've heard of him he's peddling the same crap as Immortal and the like. Anti-government, conspiracy, pro-Socialism rhetoric. It's no revelation, and there are plenty of people talking about the same stuff in loads of genres of music. He's no revelation.


I think he and the rapper "lowkey" are in cahoots with that turd Jody Mcintyre
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Original post by Annoying-Mouse
I've like Akala but I do hate the type of people that like him. They're the same type of people that will always say **** like "knowledge is power" yet never read any actual books on the issue their discussing and their knowledge doesn't extend more than anti-governmental, illumanti, anti-war etc crap which they found out from some youtube video.


it definitely gets tiring when you see that crap on every single music video.

Original post by Steevee
You're opinion. Personally I think Red-Man, Immortal, 50 Cent, NWA and plenty of other 'God-tier' hip-hop artists are awful. I'm not a hip-hop fan for the most part, I pick and choose what I like. But really, it's quite obvious that people like Scroobius Pip are more intelligent than the vast majority of 'good' rappers, and even if they're not, they certainly come off as it. They don't have to talk about 'haters', 'heaters', 'food', 'beef' and all this crap, they don't buy into the pathetic rap sub-culture, and that's why I like them.


I understand you disregarding other rappers but perhaps you haven't yet observed their lyrics the use of poetry and genius expressed through the application of poetic techniques.

After all subject/topic is only one half perhaps even less of a good rap, the rest comes through technique, rhythm, application of instruments and body language.

But yes it is true that they tend to talk about the same stuff but it's the way they talk about these that is probably revered.

For example we can all talk about guns but can we talk from the perspective of a gun, or compare it to a rain drop, is it not that to successfully do so also requires genuine talent?
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Original post by Stratos
it definitely gets tiring when you see that crap on every single music video.



The thing is that I understand you disregarding other rappers but perhaps you haven't yet observed their lyrics the use of poetry and genius expressed through the application of poetic techniques.

After all subject/topic is only one half perhaps even less of a good rap, the rest comes through technique, rhythm, application of instruments and body language.

But yes it is true that they tend to talk about the same stuff but it's the way they talk about these that is probably revered.

For example we can all talk about guns but can we talk from the perspective of a gun, or compare it to a rain drop, is it not that to successfully do so also requires genuine talent?


Oh don't get me wrong, objectivley talking I can see the skill involved, appreciate the flow and rhyming technique, I just don't like them. I mean, I quite like Immortals sound, I just hate his subject matter and message.
I think Immortal technique's 'Dancing with the Devil' has the most disturbing 'story' to it. It's cringe worthy. :afraid:
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Original post by Steevee
Oh don't get me wrong, objectivley talking I can see the skill involved, appreciate the flow and rhyming technique, I just don't like them. I mean, I quite like Immortals sound, I just hate his subject matter and message.


Very often subject matter does make you like or dislike a rapper it is why I don't listen to many rappers.
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Original post by Stratos
Very often subject matter does make you like or dislike a rapper it is why I don't listen to many rappers.


Hmm, mind you, I do also get a bit fed up with the way some rappers talk, the language they use. I mean, take someone like Dizzee or Skepta, they don;t take themselves too seriously so I don;t mind their style, but I'm giving some Akala a listen now, and is all the 'madem wid me' 'doe' instead of though and that sort of thing. But, he is better than I gave him credit for, still not buying any of his albums or anything though :tongue:
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Original post by Steevee
Oh don't get me wrong, objectivley talking I can see the skill involved, appreciate the flow and rhyming technique, I just don't like them. I mean, I quite like Immortals sound, I just hate his subject matter and message.


Obviously if you're coming from a right-wing/conservative minded perspective then you'll not like Immortal Technique's pretty obvious left-leaning position but you have to at least give him credit for being serious about his politics. The hip-hop/rap scene is dominated by utterly vacuous nonsense more or less limited to fake-gangsterism, bling- and money-worship and how many 'bitches' got laid - the limitations of subject matter the corporate music industry likes.

You probably won't like Dead Prez either :tongue:
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Original post by Steevee
Eugh, from what I've heard of him he's peddling the same crap as Immortal and the like. Anti-government, conspiracy, pro-Socialism rhetoric. It's no revelation, and there are plenty of people talking about the same stuff in loads of genres of music. He's no revelation.


Where's the conspiracy or socialism? Being anti-government is expected.
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hah awesome.

"money is a means to get wealth, not the wealth itself"
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Original post by Oswy
Obviously if you're coming from a right-wing/conservative minded perspective then you'll not like Immortal Technique's pretty obvious left-leaning position but you have to at least give him credit for being serious about his politics. The hip-hop/rap scene is dominated by utterly vacuous nonsense more or less limited to fake-gangsterism, bling- and money-worship and how many 'bitches' got laid - the limitations of subject matter the corporate music industry likes.

You probably won't like Dead Prez either :tongue:


Well to be honest, I can get over the left-leaning stuff, I do with plenty of my music, bucause let's face it, there aren't many conservative musicians :cool:

It's more the 'blame whitey' attitude that comes across in a lot of his songs, along with the conspiracy rubbish about the Templars and NWO which he doesn;t seem to be able to get through a song without mentioning, besides that one where he raps about some guy raping his own mother :lolwut:


Original post by Bonged.
Where's the conspiracy or socialism? Being anti-government is expected.


The conspiracy to keep the black people and working class in general down. Although I'll acknowledge again, I may have misjudged Akala, I was rather basing my opinion of him on the people that like him and the assumption that he was somewhat like Immortal, Jedi Mind Tricks and so on. I shall reserve further judgement for tomorrow when I have listened to some more of his stuff :colonhash:

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