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OCR F321 - 23rd May

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Original post by timkench
it was definitely added to both, i'm with ufo here


It definitely was - anyways, I've lost 3 marks already so DAMN! :frown:
Original post by lolo-x
so did you write 2 for your answer?


C_subs go ask ur teacher and even the teacher will say it hold 2 electrons..
Original post by broken_glass_heart


Q8B) Disproportionation of chlorine, +5 -> +7 and +5 -> -1
TOTAL MARKS = 1

Q8C) -It's both oxidised and reduced simultaneously.
TOTAL MARKS = 3






Pretty sure the disproportionation question was one question for 3 marks.
Reply 583
simliarity is Mg dissolves in soultion and bubbles come out
difference is A doesn't produce CO2 after HCL was added while tube B produced CO2

ofc u will see CO2 in A tube in part a) ( that is about decompostion not about after HCL added to 'both' tube)
part b) is a compeletly new question
Reply 584
Original post by ufochaffeuress
It definitely was - anyways, I've lost 3 marks already so DAMN! :frown:


i've lost five, the p orbital, 2 on the last one, and 3rd ionisation energy and periodicity maybe). hopefully it stops there!
Reply 585
Original post by timkench
in test tube A, the HCl was added to the MgO
test tube B hcl was added to MgCO3


damn i didnt read the question properly :frown:
Reply 586
Original post by its_rich
Zn has a plus +1 charge
Po4 has a -3, think about phosphoric acid, H3PO4,

So it's Zn3PO4


Zn has a +2 charge
Original post by broken_glass_heart
Originally Posted by broken_glass_heart
whilst its still fresh in our minds, lets have a mark scheme so people know where they went wrong..please feel free to add to it or amend it if am wrong...

Q1) Proton = +1 charge, mass =1, in NUCLEUS
Neutron = 0 charge, mass = 1 in nucleus
Electron = _1 charge, mass 1/2000, on outer shell
TOTAL MARKS = 1

Q2) The first ionisation energy is the energy required to remove one electron from each atom in one mole of gaseous atoms to form one mole of gaseous 1+ ions.
TOTAL MARKS = 3

Q3) 2p orbital + 2 electrons
3s subshell = 2 electrons
4th shell = 32 electrons
TOTAL MARKS = 3

Q4) periodicity = The trends/patterns shown be elements across a period
TOTAL MARKS = 1


Q5) X, 14, 6 was C
ion with -3 charge with structure of neon was nitrogen
The element with the lowest first ionisation energy was Sodium/Na
Lowest 3rd ionisation energy was Aluminium
The last bit with the 6 ionisation energies shown below was Mg
TOTAL MARKS = 5

Q7A) MgCO3 -------> MgO(S) + CO2 (g)
TOTAL MARKS = 1

Q7B) PRODUCT OF TEST TUBE A = MgO + CO2
PRODUCT OF TEST TUBE B = MgCl2 + CO2 + H20
TOTAL MARKS = 2

Q7C) SIMILARITIES = Effervescence seen as CO2 given off in both reactions
DIFFERENCES = A white solid precipitate of MgO formed in test tube A, but no solid precipitate in test B.
TOTAL MARKS = 2

Q8A) Sodium Chlorate (V)
TOTAL MARKS = 1


Q8B) Disproportionation of chlorine, +5 -> +7 and +5 -> -1
TOTAL MARKS = 1

Q8C) -It's both oxidised and reduced simultaneously.
TOTAL MARKS = 3


Q9a) Question about how you know a salt is produced:
The H+ ion in the HCl acid is replaced by the metal ion (Na+?)
TOTAL MARKS = 2


Q9b) Product formed is Zn3(PO4)2
TOTAL MARKS = 1


Q10) Why not use Chlorination:
Many answers from:
- chlorine forms chlorinated hydrocarbons which are carcinogenic
- chlorine can form toxins
Why use chlorination?
Answer: Benefits outweigh the risks. this has been proved by scientists
TOTAL MARKS = 2


To be continued....


The one with the calculations finding out about the percentage of that chemical in that drug of 500mg.
-The percentage at the end was something like 93-94% - can't remeber what it was exactly.

|Yeyy!! please please carry on....:smile: THANKS!! :biggrin:
Original post by c_subs
thats right only if it talking about from the very 1st s orbital and adding up to it..
but if u minus s^2 from the your first answer, its = 6 ELECTRONs


I read it twice....i couldn't make it out whether it was
from the beginning or not.....
Reply 589
For the bonding question:

The shape of CHCl3 was tetrahedral. You had to draw it with the C atom in the centre and with the other atoms covalently bonded to it (similar to NH4+).
Reply 590
Original post by polzeath.sunset
do you think me saying a) CO2 given off b) solid disappears in 2 but not in one..

because it said what would they observe...?


Yh, that's exactly what i put! Hope it's right
Reply 591
omg i cannot get peace until i kno for sure the answer to the electron one


iS IT 2, 6, then ??






ANSWERRR PLEASEEEWEE
You kno what.....as long as i get >90% im happy:smile:
this paper was ridiculously hard!
Reply 594
Original post by vfest
damn i didnt read the question properly :frown:


it was quite weird wording tbh, had to look a couple of times
Reply 595
Its is ok for the chlorine question to mention radicals
Reply 596
Also what was the answers for the ammonia and water question
Reply 597
Original post by bites
Yh, that's exactly what i put! Hope it's right


its the other war round, both dissolve and only one gives off CO2
what % did you lot got for Mg(OH)2 ?????
Reply 599
Original post by monkeyDace

Original post by monkeyDace
I read it twice....i couldn't make it out whether it was
from the beginning or not.....


i got 6 cos theres a 2px, 2py and 2pz orbital, although each of them holds two so the answer could have been two (a bit ambiguous)
(edited 12 years ago)

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