Why should footballers be on a better salary than soldiers? I think its wrong

So when I referred to racism, you took it upon yourself to discuss other issues in society which aren't in any way connected to football? I assume you hate the televsion industry as well then, as that offers nothing to the homeless etc. Oh, no wait, you're having a pop at a sport instead. Cool.

You're complaining against an industry that was born from the working class to reach all members of the public, that earnt it's money fairly and is now reaping the benefits. This is a creation from the poor to benefit all.

You comment on football violence and say it's tribalistic violence. You're right, but what harm does that do to the common man? Next to none. Having spent time with those who have previously been in football firms, I know that these acts of violence aren't aimed at the general public or innocent stand-byers. Sure, occasionaly the odd accident happens, someone gets mixed into the wrong crowd 'cause they went the wrong way to the ground that day. That is evident in everyday life though. Gang wars, culture wars, race wars etc. Why are you so keen to pick it up against football though which aims to keep it in-house? Those looking for violence will only go to those who want it back. Very rarely is an innocent man the primary victim, so it doesn't really stem away from cultural fights.

In any case, you fail to establish any fairness to the debate. It's obvious how football has created communities within communities and brought people together. How many other industries allow friends, families and those within their community to travel the length of the country in thousands, built around pride, excitement and enjoyment to support their team? Not many. Infact, most sports can't even manage that, let alone oher industries.

I spend a substantial amount of money on football as I enjoy it - It's a hobby. I've met a lot of amazing people through supporting Leeds United. Friends for life. I'm part of a community. I watch a sport I enjoy. It connects me to family that I would most likely not see otherwise. Why should my decision to spend £X amount on football be any business of yours anyway? We're free to do what we want with our disaposable cash, as is anyone who gets involved with the game. The money within the game was earnt fairly.

As for points such as donating to charities for tax benefits, you've clearly failed to do your homework. The majority of clubs that can afford to extend their charitable donations beyond the point of benefit through tax benefits. And even if they didn't, who cares? It's an industry that has grown so strong that it can give to charitable organisations, even if it means to benefit themselves as well. Does that money mean less to the charities? No.

You comment on boys and girls wanting to be footballers. Oh, how much horror... No, wait, what? How is that a bad thing? Would you complain if they said they wanted to be a track and field runner? No. What actual difference does it make to children? None. infact, football clubs are now more ebenficial to youngsters trying to get into the game than ever before, and more-so than any other sport. Many clubs work with their academy and youth players to help them progress through school, and in some cases have their own school academies to make sure they also get a good education. Meanwhile, football offers a safe environment to enjoy a world-wide sport loved by the majority of the population.

This idea that footballers aren't role models anymore as well is a complete joke. There are hundreds of thousands of footballers in Europe, amazingly the vast majority of them aren't out drinking, shagging and cheating on their wives with coke scratched across their nose. No, a hell of a lot of them are hard-working individuals who help out with charities, local schools and communities. They're athletes who look after themselves well and play a sport loved by kids. Look at Jack Wilshere - A talented individual, graceful on the field as much as he is in person. He's a bloody gentleman. He's only 19, he's younger than me, but he has the maturity of a 30 year old. He's a brilliant speaker and quite intelligent. He has qualifications which could get him a job outside of football easily. He's a father through choice, not accident. He works hard for his career, doesn't sleep around, get drunk or take drugs. He's worked with local communities and helped a lot of charities in his short, short career. He's an England international and represents this country with pride. There are many like him, some who do even more, within England alone. They're ten a penny in Europe. How isn't that an inspirational man?

Lastly, and a point which I can't stress enough, degredation of women in the game is non-existant anymore. In the US for example, the women's game is just as big as the men's game. In Europe, the rate of women going to football games is at an all time high. The women's game within the UK and other major countries is more high profile now than it ever has been before. The Women's World Cup was recently broadcast around the globe.

Football is a massively corrupt business. People are more interested in watching football, than say, a war?

****loads of people spend their money to watch it and so they pay the players.

They're hardly going to pay money to watch a war.

Without wanting to sound rude, I doubt you put in quite the same amount of effort, both physical and mental, as professional footballers.

How would you define success then?

Exactly. People who view them as heroes are people conditioned by the media. Like SkyNews and The Sun who constantly show sob stories from soldiers and yet you never see a thing about the innocent children shot dead which happends almost daily!vPeople say some do horrible stuff but the majority are great. It is the other way around.

Half of them should be jailed not paid more. Here is why: (I know he is American but same thing in this situation really)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUvABcw6gIY

Lol you sound like Catullus

Really? Nar mate... Hot Fuzz? I would get my head ripped off? I am sure I would.. that is my point..

Soldiers are murderers and do not deserve huge wages.

Go away back to your cave, you cretin.

Where is the evidence they have raped women etc. etc.

I am a caveman for being against the rape of innocent women and children

I'm interested in finding out how you would define it?

*sigh*

You're a caveman/prat* for laying down accusations you have no way of quantifying or proving. You exhibit a blind, baseless hatred and utter ignorance. That's why people neg you. It has nothing to do with your views, but the idiotic manner in which you present them.

*delete as applicable

Go away back to your cave, you cretin.

Where is the evidence they have raped women etc. etc.

The disappointing issue in all this is that, if he wanted, he could back up his point - Abu Ghraib springs to mind. He just presents his views in such a bigoted, cretinous way.

The disappointing issue in all this is that, if he wanted, he could back up his point - Abu Ghraib springs to mind. He just presents his views in such a bigoted, cretinous way.