Germany considers Nuclear Weapons

OP

May I urge the member for China to embrace the reality that is Islamofascism, terrorists have proven on several occasions that they are more than willing to die for their cause. With regard to regimes, these too may well not be dettered by their own destruction, and besides, it is highly likely that a regime using nuclear weapons (or sponsoring such a use) on Germany would be anihilated anyway, whether conventionally or through the use of nuclear weapons (by other nations coming to Germany's aid)

Germany finds it hard to believe that the hypothetical 'Islamofascism' idea will ever work on the magnitude of people that would be affected by a nuclear weapons.

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OP

Say that when Saddam was in power he had been inclined and acpable of launching a nuclear assault on the U.S he could have launched the nuclear attack. Then moved a body double to far off shiite territory and would not be much displeased if the shiite population suffered as a result of a counter attack.

Most unfortunately, I cannot catch the gist of what you imply, would you be as kind to clarify your point?

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aiman

Germany finds it hard to believe that the hypothetical 'Islamofascism' idea will ever work on the magnitude of people that would be affected by a nuclear weapons.

Greece agrees, the point being made was that the terrorists themselves are not concerned about their own destruction, and the rogue leaders may well not be either - it is therefore not legitimate to use the small threat of terrorism as an excuse to aquire nuclear weapons - Greece hopes that the matter will be resolved anyway by NATO discussions

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turbochargedk

Say that when Saddam was in power he had been inclined and acpable of launching a nuclear assault on the U.S he could have launched the nuclear attack. Then moved a body double to far off shiite territory and would not be much displeased if the shiite population suffered as a result of a counter attack.

With today's nuclear weaponry, it would affect the whole of Iraq, it would not be localised to a certian territory

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OP

What Greece must realise is that a number of countries, legally or illegally possess nuclear arms. To this moment in time, nuclear weapons have rarely been used. Germany believes that it is responsible enough to use nuclear weapons only in the utmost of need

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aiman

What Greece must realise is that a number of countries, legally or illegally possess nuclear arms. To this moment in time, nuclear weapons have rarely been used. Germany believes that it is responsible enough to use nuclear weapons only in the utmost of need

Greece agrees that Germany is a responsible, peaceful nation, but disagrees that it is in any way neccesary for Germany to seek nuclear arms

Reply 88

Although countries have a right to a view, and it was perhaps important to be brought to the attention of the GA, in the end it is an internal matter and therefore Germany does not need to be influenced by views here.

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turbochargedk

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aiman

Most unfortunately, I cannot catch the gist of what you imply, would you be as kind to clarify your point?

Nuclear weapons only act as a deterrent if the leader of the country that launches them fears retribution, if he doesn't then it isn't much of a deterrent. Although Switzerland must add that Greece has understood and clarified the Swiss argument perfectly.

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turbochargedk

Nuclear weapons only act as a deterrent if the leader of the country that launches them fears retribution, if he doesn't then it isn't much of a deterrent.

China answered this post above.

Reply 91

OP

Greece agrees that Germany is a responsible, peaceful nation, but disagrees that it is in any way neccesary for Germany to seek nuclear arms

Surely Germany, with the capacity to protect its citizens, must strive to do so. If its own nuclear weapons (or those of a NATO nation) reduce the probability of a nuclear attack on Germany's citizens, Germany sees it a right of its citizens to have this reduced risk. It would prefer a NATO agreement (as it will be both safer and most likely cheaper), but if it must, it will consider the acquisition of nuclear arms to achieve its goals.

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Sadly, as China, has pointed out, UN membrs have little influence on the matter. Greece is, however, curious as to what is the internal reaction of the German people to this revelation.

Reply 93

OP

Sadly, as China, has pointed out, UN membrs have little influence on the matter. Greece is, however, curious as to what is the internal reaction of the German people to this revelation.

At this very nascent stage, not a large number of German citizens are aware of the plans. At a parlimentarian level, most German parties agree. The only party against nuclear weapons is the Free Dimplomats Party (FDP).

Reply 94

Greece would like to take this oppurtunity to congratulate Germany on its imminent hosting of the World Cup, and wishes to convey the excitement of the Greek people, despite our failure to qualify.

Reply 95

OP

Greece would like to take this oppurtunity to congratulate Germany on its imminent hosting of the World Cup, and wishes to convey the excitement of the Greek people, despite our failure to qualify.

Germany thanks Greece for its compliments. It hopes that the Greek team qualifies for the next world cup.

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China was suprised Greece didnt qualify, despite it winning Euro 2006. China also ensures the International community, we will be there in South Africa 2010 :biggrin:

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turbochargedk

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I concede The point about nuclear blasts not being localised, but not the point about military leaders necessarily putting their safety first. Sadly however Switzerland will have to rely on the neotiations to ensure Germany gets protection via nuclear weapons rather than feeling the need to develop them themselves. As this is the lesser of two evils. (by evils read bad solutions.)

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About military leaders putting their safety first - Think Saddam. He could have stayed with his people and fought against the Americans if that's where his loyalties lay, but he and his cabinet hitailed it out of Baghdad and hid in a hole.

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