What motivates people to vote Labour?

No mate, clearly you barely ever smoke so know nothing much about weed and whitey off a bucket. Its nout to be ashamed of

Nah your buying ground basil.



Shouldn't look like that mate sorry but your getting ripped off.

Oh sorry i thought you were talking about the mayor ones , for the other ones FPTP then yeah i completely agree. I hate both FPTP and AV, but im just really fussy i suppose

Jeez this is quite patronising, so much to say, yet I'll stick to, coal mining isn't a proper job to you?

Thank you someone who lives in the real world.

nah, i smoke a lot, get it free of my brother mostly or very cheap. Your just a lightweight. £30 worth maybe good for a friday night smoke but if you are referring to a pothead spending all their ema on bud it isnt enough for a week.

anyway back on topic...

As I've said, this is probably well off middle class college boys who think theyre bad having a spliff behind campus. Which is why I advocated getting rid of it except for those from properly poor families. 30k a year isnt poor, and even then these people would only get a tenner

What's your point? The SDLP is a superior choice than any other nationalists party, also the Tories had a deal with UUP pre-election?

(as the saying goes left wing politics is for the heart, right wing politics is for the brain) .

Labour is the party of the NHS and looking after the unfortunate people.

Also people seem to forget the heritage of the labour party and the grass roots of the party, it's not scroungers it's hard working , working class people who seek protection. I would dare say by and large the "benefit scroungers" are Apolitical.
People need a reality check

Who is getting punished by this Tory led government
Nurses
teachers
Social workers

People vote Labour because they are fed up of the austerity measures of this government.

They are fed up watching the rich tax avoiding

whilst jobs are being taken away from the average man.

I think its more due to the fact that there isn't really a suitable alternative, think about it, in Britain we only really have the two parties of Labour and Tories and they both have pros and cons, obviously no one party will ever be able to solve everything. I would say, and this is just my opinion, that labour seem to actually care more about helping those who need the help such as those in poverty and with bad resources, than the tories. I think for those families they need the help now which is what labour offers instead of the tories plan that lowering spending will eventually help the economy in 10 or whatever years time. Some people just don't have the time to wait to be able to feed their kids etc. Although this may seem selfish and what not you have to remember that it is the persons individual vote and everyone has different needs.

Some good points here,

Firstly, deficit is surely irrelevant, this is what the Tories plan was. I'd be very surprised if it was higher, I'm no economist, but surely some facts are misleading?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/9241554/Government-borrowing-will-rise-in-2012-despite-18bn-austerity-plan-says-CBI.html

http://www.ftadviser.com/2012/05/04/investments/economic-indicators/uk-gdp-is-less-than-pre-crisis-niesr-MxKJH10OQa42KVY8YBPrdJ/article.html

And, considering the royal wedding, there always was going to be a boost to the economy here anyway.

As for Thatcher's policies, economically she suited the corporations and so by growing them I can see why it's deemed she performed an "economic miracle." However socially, she lengthened the divide between the rich and the poor, she weakened the unions and under-funded infrastructure, also her "buy your own council house" surely was a big loss?

I firmly believe that growth is the key to economic recovery, growth which it seems this government are avoiding at all costs.

Oh and by students, I accept the rise in tuition fees because as you say the repay system is fair enough. I'm talking about the removal of the EMA (it should still be donated to the most needy) and the pay freeze for the workers aged between 18-25, as opposed to other ages.

Thatcher's effect on poverty was profound, obviously this is of little concern to you, but it is to me.

No doubt the expensive scandal highlights the corruption in both camps, however thieving billionaires refers to say, http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2012/04/17/conservative-peer-hired-as-tax-haven-lobbyist/

Also, I believe wealth should be distributed on need, therefore giving the rich a tax break, in a gamble that they will stay here, is money given to them, thus thieving. Also look at how some Tory MP's received funding from, say, A4E and private healthcare firms.

Oh and discussing family values makes me selfish does it? I had know idea economics was the only purpose of a government

Wish I could have voted in the mayor ones, first choice would have been Jenny , second choice Ken . It'd be great if the general elections were like that.

The fact is that there is perhaps a cigarette paper separating the Conservatives and Labour at the current time, this having been the case for about the last 40 years, and if, billydisco, you think anything different, as your posts seem to vociferously imply, you are an ignoramus.

Because they're slightly less **** than the alternatives.