According to economist article, Jews are genetically superior

What was your evidence that they aren't as intelligent as Einstein? That they didn't come up with Relativity? He already did that. Maybe their hair wasn't straggly and they weren't balding?

no, my friends are not as intelligent, just because a discredited tests says so. look how desperate you are to cling on to this.

no, his high intelligence is obvious in what he achieved, not in his IQ.

knowledge is something we can all acquire but intelligence is something we are born with...

i think you need to watch that documentary "what makes a genius" and its certainly not a high IQ.

Absolutely nothing in that supports the claim that IQ is discredited.

You don't understand what I'm saying. Intelligence is not measured in terms of academic achievement. Academic achievement can be gained by very mediocre intellects who work hard - i.e. have gained knowledge. Intelligent people can be lazy and achieve nothing academically, but they are still vastly intelligent. They can equally work hard and complement their intelligence with acquired knowledge, and that is when we see geniuses. Not unreachable base intelligence, not unreachable acquired knowledge, but a combination of both and a bit of luck that allow people to stand out.

Also, stop using Einstein as some massive academic role model. Most of his theories of relativity were already being postulated by other physicists, Einstein was merely able to popularize them by putting them together and using a better way to describe them, and being well known previously.

i know them, they aren't as smart as me yet alone Einstein (i recently created a new mathematical method for quadratic factorising).

if you watch the documentary i posted, you will see.

You don't understand what I'm saying. Intelligence is not measured in terms of academic achievement. Academic achievement can be gained by very mediocre intellects who work hard - i.e. have gained knowledge. Intelligent people can be lazy and achieve nothing academically, but they are still vastly intelligent. They can equally work hard and complement their intelligence with acquired knowledge, and that is when we see geniuses. Not unreachable base intelligence, not unreachable acquired knowledge, but a combination of both and a bit of luck that allow people to stand out.

Also, stop using Einstein as some massive academic role model. Most of his theories of relativity were already being postulated by other physicists, Einstein was merely able to popularize them by putting them together and using a better way to describe them, and being well known previously.

i think you need to reread...

watch that documentary and come back to me.. its really good.

In this thread:

Anecdotal Evidence - Check
Pseudoscience - Check
Mindless Bigotry - Check
Confusion over the nature of intelligence - Check
The same old IQ debate that we see at least five times per day - Check

Just to complete the set, I'm going to invoke Godwin's law.

Wasn't there a fella in Germany who had some interesting ideas about Jews and their genetic capability?

Actually they traditionally are. Their religious texts are some on the most complex ive seen and also mean they gain language learning experience. Hebrew is a beautiful looking language, but weighed against this is their tendency to dress like dorks.

OK. What, are you like a university academic or something?

I think maybe people can be very intelligent but not show it much. Maybe a lot goes on in their heads but they struggle to express it for some reason.

Special relativity, but not General, which was very much his work.

And he did loads of other stuff too.

i agree with the above, still doesn't give IQ tests credit.



Albert Einstein is the archetype of the intellectual genius.

Your argument was this documentary was about gifted children and did not mention IQ therefore IQ is invalid

He built on a good framework well, obviously, but you are missing the point that without the acquired knowledge, intelligence is useless in physics.

http://www.economist.com/node/4032638

So if Jews, which in this article have been separated as a race can be more intelligent than non Jews. Can't this be true for non Jews?
For instance East Asians do better in IQ tests and schooling than European Whites. And Europeans do significantly better than Africans.
So I think it is indeed the case that different races have different intelligences.

Complex religious texts doesnt mean they are smart does it? It says interests is not permissible, and yet they give and take interest?

without knowledge, intelligence is useless full stop...