Being physically attractive is a good thing!

Dear ISA

please stop wallowing in self-pity

From

A girl of the same age who does see where your coming from, but doesn't spend her days immersing herself in the negativity that her looks bring.

Easier said than done. It's hard to stop self-pity when you completely hate yourself, but have to accept the person you are. It's awful.

Some people eat to try and ignore their problems (as do some people take drugs, cut themselves, etc.). If we can improve their self-esteem, the problem can be stopped from the roots.

I don't see why the obsession on this thread is attractiveness. Being attractive in no way makes a person better or worse than another. It holds little to no value. While attractive people may be given some preference, the idea of what is attractive and what is not is completely subjective, so there is no reason to put such emphasis on it. I can understand being somewhat critical of people's weight but from a health perspective. It is unhealthy to have certain percentages of body fat or to be overweight. However, this is independent of whether a person is attractive, and while you may find someone unattractive someone else somewhere may find them attractive so why should a person change to your ideas of attractiveness?

Well duh. Goes without saying that people ain't gonna marry their siblings. Sometimes the inability of people to make inferences from generalisations is beyond belief.

If you include facial attractiveness as an element of masculinity then yes, masculinity is important to girls. As is muscle size etc. Though the tastes of girls vary, they are all attracted to masculinity in some shape or form.

While attractiveness is subjective to an extent, there is a commonly held perception of beauty, any woman bigger than about size 14 is considered fat and therefore less attractive, so it is in the interests of said women to lose weight in order to maximise their choice of potential partners.

Hot girl + ugly guy = less chance of attractiveness than hot girl + hot guy.
You can't argue with science.

I'm 15, but how can I stop caring about looks when it's the most important thing for a girl in order to get a guy?

They're girls my age that I hang out with. I think they're a bit young for you.

Also for me what I wouldn't find attractive is someone who doesn't take care of their self, make of it what you will.

But they would still be attractive.

I'm not attractive at all. At all.

I like how the OP consistently relates attractiveness to size.

Attractiveness is subjective, remember that

When studies of physical attractiveness have been done, it turns out most people have very similar standards as to what is attractive. There is almost an objective standard of attractiveness.

The attractiveness of different personalities on the other hand is very varied from person to person, this is where individuals judge things differently to other individuals.

Attractive physical traits have varied historically, which shows that attractiveness is subjective. Examples have been given above, but in addition to those the Chinese used to consider small feet attractive which led to foot bindings and such. And English liked small waists and so women wore corsets. It also used to be that being pale was attractive, now the opposite is true.

Ohhhh yes, but those "attractive" traits were pretty consistent across the society. The point is that people who have the same influences on them, tend to have the same idea of what is physically attractive. This idea that some guys like this and others like this, is a bit of a myth. A hot girl is a hot girl. And vice versa.

The same cannot be said for personality though.

I agree with you OP - appearance is the most important thing.

I say we scrap the education we have now and the academic side should just be about the basics of English and Maths with a new curriculum that places a lot of emphasis on appearance and how you present yourself to others, e.g. *hours* of sport every day and elocution lessons.

You can only study academic subjects if you are deemed "good enough" for the opposite sex.

Who actually gives a **** about you if you're not beautiful? It's the truth.

I bet I'm going to get a lot of posts saying about "it's not the most important thing", "it's personality that counts". But who will the posts be written by? Women and desperate men.

Any decent man would want a hot girl.

Easier said than done. It's hard to stop self-pity when you completely hate yourself, but have to accept the person you are. It's awful.

Their women are slimmer and more attractive than ours.
How is teaching kids that it's okay to be fat going to make us more like them?