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Solutions to this PDE?

I have seen a couple of solutions to this PDE -


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One is -


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I have no idea how this is arrived at or if it's correct. This is what i want to know.


The solution i've checked out makes the substitution of

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which gives -


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which is where i'm a bit stuck, as substituting

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gives a CodeCogsEqn (6).gif term that i don't know how to simpify.


Any help with both of these would be appreciated
Reply 1
Original post by stanante
I have seen a couple of solutions to this PDE -


CodeCogsEqn.gif


One is -


CodeCogsEqn (1).gif

I have no idea how this is arrived at or if it's correct. This is what i want to know.


The solution i've checked out makes the substitution of

CodeCogsEqn (2).gif

which gives - <------- why do you think this?


CodeCogsEqn (3).gif


which is where i'm a bit stuck, as substituting

CodeCogsEqn (5).gif

gives a CodeCogsEqn (6).gif term that i don't know how to simpify.


Any help with both of these would be appreciated


See quote.
Reply 2
Original post by stanante
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coshA=1+sinh2A    cosh(sinh1θ)=1+sinh2(sinh1θ)=...\displaystyle \cosh A =\sqrt{1+\sinh^2 A} \implies \cosh \left(\sinh^{-1} \theta\right) = \sqrt{1+\sinh^2 \left( \sinh^{-1} \theta\right)} = ...
Reply 3
Ok first off, i've written the dependent and independent variables the wrong way round.

It should be \frac{\partial u}{\partial x}=\frac{x}{\sqrt{1+y^{2}}}

And what's wrong with this latex code?
(edited 11 years ago)
Reply 4
Original post by stanante
Ok first off, i've written the dependent and independent variables the wrong way round.

It should be ux=x1+y2\frac{\partial u}{\partial x}=\frac{x}{\sqrt{1+y^{2}}}

And what's wrong with this latex code?

Are you sure your question is now correct? The solution you gave in your OP is not a solution to this PDE.

Can you post the question exactly as you see it, with all the information?
Reply 5
Man! I can't seem to write anything correctly. Independent variable is 'y' not 'x'

uy=x1+y2\frac{\partial u}{\partial y}=\frac{x}{\sqrt{1+y^{2}}} for a function u(x,y,z)u\left ( x,y,z \right )
Reply 6
Original post by stanante
I have seen a couple of solutions to this PDE -


uy=x1+y2\displaystyle \frac{\partial u}{\partial y}=\frac{x}{1+y^2}


One is -


u=lny+1+y2+f(x)\displaystyle u=\ln \left|y+\sqrt{1+y^2}\right|+f(x)


The solution should be

u=xlny+1+y2+f(x,z)\displaystyle u=x\ln \left|y+\sqrt{1+y^2}\right|+f(x,z)

u=xlncoshθ+f(x)\displaystyle u=x\ln \left|\cosh \theta\right|+f(x)

Can you explain how you arrived at this?
Reply 7
I see the first one. That's clear. Thanks.

Just worked out the other one. Making stupid errors. Perhaps you could double check?
For the second - let y=sinhθdy=coshθdθy=\sinh \theta \Rightarrow dy=\cosh \theta d\theta

And substitute in, gives du=x11+sinh2θcoshθdθ\int du=x\int \frac{1}{\sqrt{1+\sinh ^{2}\theta }}\cosh \theta d\theta

And from the identity coshθ=1+sinh2θ\cosh \theta =\sqrt{1+\sinh ^{2}\theta }

So du=xcoshθcoshθdθ=xdθ=xsinh1y+f(x,z)\int du=x\int \frac{\cosh\theta}{\cosh\theta } d\theta = x\int d\theta= x\sinh^{-1}y+f\left ( x,z \right )

That should be it. I hope!
(edited 11 years ago)
Reply 8
Original post by stanante
I see the first one. That's clear. Thanks.

Just worked out the other one. Making stupid errors. Perhaps you could double check?
For the second - let y=sinhθdy=coshθdθy=\sinh \theta \Rightarrow dy=\cosh \theta d\theta

And substitute in, gives du=x11+sinh2θcoshθdθ\int du=x\int \frac{1}{\sqrt{1+\sinh ^{2}\theta }}\cosh \theta d\theta

And from the identity coshθ=1+sinh2θ\cosh \theta =\sqrt{1+\sinh ^{2}\theta }

So du=xcoshθcoshθdθ=xdθ=xsinh1y+f(x,z)\int du=x\int \frac{\cosh\theta}{\cosh\theta } d\theta = x\int d\theta= x\sinh^{-1}y+f\left ( x,z \right )

That should be it. I hope!

Looks good to me :smile:
Reply 9
Thanks for all the help :smile:

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