Feminists and Rape Culture

This is correct, and wouldn't you argue that this is because society sees women as harmless victims by default? This is an idea that the majority of feminists want to get rid of.



Of course, but it's all relative. If you saw someone in relative poverty in the UK, you wouldn't scoff at them and tell them that others have it much harsher in third world countries would you? Society should make an effort to address everyone's issues regardless of gender, which include the inequalities in the justice system as you previously mentioned, as well as wage inequality etc.



I suppose you've heard of the retaliation hashtag #NotAllMen? It's where men who don't cat-call or do any of the things that women have talked about tell them that not all men are like that. This is true, but given the fact that almost all women are, to a degree, affected by and fearful of the bad apples that perpetuate misogyny leaves a lot to be said.

As well as that, the person who started the #YesAllWomen actually got death threats from those retaliating, the same men who claimed to not be those who partake in the disgusting behaviour that was called out.

I think what I'm trying to say is that the world would certainly be a lot better place if we all took the time to treat each other with equal kindness and respect.

We tell people not to commit crime all the time. From police coming into schools to lecture about the evils of drugs, to anti knife crime campaigns, to countless other initiatives, we're constantly teaching people not to <crime>. Why should sexual assault be any different?

Public campaigns influence culture - it's not a case of trying to get an individual rapist to go "Oh wait, this is morally wrong! I should stop." It's shifting culture to make it less likely people will consider it an option.

Feminists of the West regularly bring up the issue of rape.

The claim made these days by these misandrist whores is perhaps not made through any fault of their own, although I think it unlikely they would question the validity of their arguments once they have been made. The figure is that over 25% of women will be raped in their lives. That is a sizeable figure to say the least.

Such a massive figure may go some way to explaining why the conviction rate of accused rapists is so low. Do the authorities have any hope of convicting so many men? I would suggest that many rape accusations are somewhat woolly; another opportunity for some victim mentality.

Pretending that you're being ****ed over by someone is a popular pass-time these days.

I'd very much like to know which one of my posts resulted in a PM saying it was offensive/trolling..? Pretty sure i haven't directly insulted anyone here and i certainly am not trolling.

Pointing out the idiocy in something is not against the rules last time i checked, nor was having an opinion against feminists(ism).

I provided you with a source for my data. Where are his? He makes many claims. This man seems to feel forsaken by the system. He has a "I LIVE IN A MATRIARCHY, I AM OPPRESSED" attitude. A quick look at his favourited videos confirms this, namely "men are people too".

The notions some people in this thread have made about sexual assault are laughable. I don't know what rock any of you have been living under, but the abuse industry is a multi-billion dollar industry. Saying things such as "we're finally giving sexual assault the attention it deserves" is misguided, to say the least.

We tell people not to commit crime all the time. From police coming into schools to lecture about the evils of drugs, to anti knife crime campaigns, to countless other initiatives, we're constantly teaching people not to <crime>. Why should sexual assault be any different?

Public campaigns influence culture - it's not a case of trying to get an individual rapist to go "Oh wait, this is morally wrong! I should stop." It's shifting culture to make it less likely people will consider it an option.

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In the last few years, there has been an unfortunate trend towards blaming “rape culture” for the extensive problem of sexual violence on campus. While it is helpful to point out the systemic barriers to addressing the problem, it is important not to lose sight of a simple fact: Rape is caused not by cultural factors but by the conscious decisions, of a small percentage of the community, to commit a violent crime.

By the time they reach college, most students have been exposed to 18 years of prevention messages, in one form or another . . . the overwhelming majority of these young adults have learned right from wrong, and enter college knowing that rape falls squarely in the latter category. Dr. David Lisak estimates that three percent of college men are responsible for more than 90% of rapes . . . It is this relatively small percentage of the population, which has proven itself immune to years of prevention messages, that we must address in other ways.

As Dr. Lisak has noted, we can benefit from decades’ of sex offender treatment work, which supports that it is all but impossible to reprogram a serial offender with a simple prevention message.

Do the authorities have any hope of convicting so many men? I would suggest that many rape accusations are somewhat woolly; another opportunity for some victim mentality.

Pretending that you're being ****ed over by someone is a popular pass-time these days.

Gladly. Most rape allegations are false and it has been proven with simple maths.

It is believed that 80% of rapes are not reported. As someone who has suffered sexual assault, I understand why many women stay silent. Of these rapes that are reported, only about 3% have been found to be false.

Many rapes and assaults do take place, and people like you who automatically say that their story is woolly, and they are just wannabe victims are part of the reason many women do not report their attacks and the offender remains free and unpunished to attack another woman or a man.

It should be noted that most rapists are known to the victim. So are many acts of assault, but if you've ever been to a night club or on the London underground, the figures are slightly more even. Sexual offenders also often have multiple victims - just because 25% of women are attacked, it doesn't mean 25% of men are sexual predators.
None the less, the number of attackers is irrelevant. What is important is the victims, and that they all get justice, whether there are 10 offenders or 10,000.

This is the most retarded thing i've ever seen. I got 4 minutes in and gave up because he was over-simplifying the figures and pulling them out of his arse.
Rape and assault figures are very complex and require complex maths.
You can't build a Hadron collider using simple, made up maths the same way you can't understand rape and accusation figures using simple maths.

He also shoves on his own view, that he gets from ****ing no-where. What supports this???

He goes on about incentives for women to lie, but a lot of rape victims are called sluts, told they deserve it, and that they should be grateful a man wanted to have sex with them. They are often blamed for being attacked, and called a bitch for 'ruining a man's life' even if the allegation was genuine!!!

He said 5% of women have psychological issues - well, why can't men? in fact, statistically more men commit suicide than women - so would more men be mentally unstable? of course this is a *******s argument. Rape is more about the need for power than sex - this is a psychological issue. As offenders have many victims, you need far fewer mentally unstable offenders than you do victims. He failed to factor this into his poor maths of false figures, attributing one man to one offence saying 'if men were 10x more likely to rape...

Also, I suffer from PMS. Very. ****ing. Badly. Sometimes I'm in so much pain I can barely walk, I throw up, and at best am in moderate pain with co-codamol and am very stressed. This doesn't make me wrongly accuse men. DON'T BLAME MY PERIOD FOR YOUR CRIMES.

Another one of these threads Dark Horse ?

First of all its quite hard for a woman to rape a man however many guys may have been sexually assaulted ( grabbed and groped) but they go unreported because most of them would probably be scared to. I know a guy whos experienced this.However it's technically very easy to rape a woman if you are a strong man. I know what it is as I've experienced it personally. However like many other women I didn't report it due to fear and I was 11 and thought it was my fault. There are many cases like that. Which goes to suggest that many rape crimes against men AND women go under reported and that the real numbers are higher than what most statistics say.However many women get sexually assaulted every day. You wouldn't know because you're a guy. For instance Sooooooooo many times I've taken a packed tube or the metro in france and had a pervert rub up on me from behind. It's nasty but you can't even prove it and in many cases you can't even move. It's gross.

What I'm saying is that women are easier targets.

Evidence?

It is innocent until proven guilty and must remain as such.

There is actually some evidence to say that many "victims" have multiple attackers. I don't mean gang rape. I mean that certain women seem to get raped all the time. Funny how some are that unfortunate.

YES! WE AGREE!
Same goes for rape victims. They are not guilty of being liars until proven so. Impartiality is important. Until there is proof, the alleged offender isn't a rapist, but the alleged victim isn't a liar.

That is true. Often gang rapists are repeat offenders as well though.Why do you think 'certain women' always get raped? Short skirt perhaps?
If a woman is sick, and she accuses men of crimes they haven't committed, then it is no stretch of the imagination that she'd do it again. But figures show that most reported rapes are not unfounded or false allegations.

Ahhh I see, it's that complicated that people can't understand it, but you can?

url]https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/personal-incredulity

People can give their own views on everything. Deal with it.

Evidence?

I posted an article not too long ago about a couple of women who falsely accused a man of rape and had to retract their charges because the man had evidence of their consent. The women were aware they gave consent but were very comfortable with getting a man sent to prison for max 25 years. Were he to not have evidence of their consent he would now be rotting in prison.

But he said that women making false rape allegations is due to them having psychogical issues such as BPD. It also ties in with what I said about many women being repeat victims.


I'd also love to know how you can prove that there are many "repeat offenders." You've just pulled this out of thin air, haven't you?



I'll bet you do.

Yes I can understand it. Most people can. That's why this over-simplification is neither wise or necessary. Only an absolute moron would not see how that video is *******s, or actually need it to be that simple to understand. Not that the video provides much in understanding. its more unstatistical bull****.

There's having your own views, but using them to create numbers and statistics based on not evidence just your own assumptions is something completely different. That is what this guy did.

http://www.alternet.org/culture/9-stupid-things-cops-nurses-lawyers-and-friends-should-never-say-survivors
http://projectunbreakable.tumblr.com/
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/04/15/3426679/study-assumption-sexual-violence-normal/

That's better evidence than your ****ty video. I love how I need evidence, but guy can come up with anything and you think thats fine.

Yes, and thats sick, but they represent an incredibly small proportion. I am wary of people who say for it to be newsworthy it can't be something that happens everyday, but hey, as this is a discussion where that video is actually being taken seriously, then I think I can throw that argument in the pot.
http://www.rapecrisisscotland.org.uk/campaigns/false-allegations/