Aren&#x27;t the police corrupt?

The Police are bent. I wouldn't trust any copper as far as I could throw him. Once a pig, always a pig. Never let your guard down and delude yourself that the copper you drink with on a Saturday night is a friend. He'll sell you down the river without batting an eyelid.

Reply 26

DenkMit

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I have spent considerable time with the police, through school and other projects I'm involved in, and in a personal capacity, and I honestly believe that they are a hardworking bunch who get all the blame and none of the thanks for a very hard job that they do damn well.

Especially here in NI, the police are harassed constantly (there's still areas of the country they can't enter, and half the population would rather stone them than report crime to them), yet they remain professional, and I've never met one who even hints of sectarianism. They in particular are under scrutiny (more so than any other police force in the world), and yet this has shown just how uncorrupt they are.

As for instutional racism - name me an organisation that doesn't have some racist members? None. Even the media (which are so quick to criticise the police) are - I agree with Sir Ian Blair's comments last year that got him in so much bother, about how they only care when disappeared kids are pretty little white girls.

Reply 27

numero sept

They are corrupt, in the "common sense of the word".

Look at that case in East London, or even the Stephen Lawrence case!

Private police would do a FAR superior job.

They've always been bent. You're picking on a single case but lets not forget that entire divisions have been closed down before now. The stench of corruption can make one heave.

Remember the Flying Squad (made famous by the bloody brilliant 1970's drama "The Sweeney")? A number of scandals involving bribery and corruption were revealed, and in 1977, the squad's commander, Detective Chief Superintendent Kenneth Drury, was convicted of five counts of corruption and jailed for eight years. Twelve other officers were also convicted and many more resigned. These and other scandals led to a massive internal investigation by the Dorset Constabulary into the Metropolitan Police Service and the City of London Police – code named Operation Countryman and the squad was later disbanded as a standalone division and incorporated into the Serious and Organised Crime Group of the Specialist Crime Directorate.

Rotten to the core! Bent as a nine bob note.

Reply 28

Andronicus Comnenus

Howard

They've always been bent. You're picking on a single case but lets not forget that entire divisions have been closed down before now. The stench of corruption can make one heave.

Remember the Flying Squad (made famous by the bloody brilliant 1970's drama "The Sweeney")? A number of scandals involving bribery and corruption were revealed, and in 1977, the squad's commander, Detective Chief Superintendent Kenneth Drury, was convicted of five counts of corruption and jailed for eight years. Twelve other officers were also convicted and many more resigned. These and other scandals led to a massive internal investigation by the Dorset Constabulary into the Metropolitan Police Service and the City of London Police – code named Operation Countryman and the squad was later disbanded as a standalone division and incorporated into the Serious and Organised Crime Group of the Specialist Crime Directorate.

Rotten to the core! Bent as a nine bob note.

Personally, i've always regretted being to young to join the Special Patrol Group :frown:

Reply 29

Andronicus Comnenus

Personally, i've always regretted being to young to join the Special Patrol Group :frown:

I remember this well.......'There's no room for men like you in my force, Savage. I'm transferring you to the SPG'. I had the "Not the Nine O'Clock News" on tape once. What brilliant comedy that was!

Reply 30

Renal

Huh? You join the police, you follow the rules. Period.

Intentions may be good, mistakes may be made - that in iteself does not detract from the intentions.

Yes, almost certainly members of the police force in this country can be racist, sexist, ageist, gamblers, alcoholics, whatever. Just like the population at large. However, I would wager that the incidence of this in the police population is lower than in the general population for the simple reason that people must be of a certain motivated character to join the police force.

As for the police being a law unto themselves, I'm sure you are well aware that the IPCC is ever present in police activities, you know that every time an armed officer draws his weapon an investigation is started - with or without there being a complaint, if they discharge that weapon they are immediately suspended until it is proven that it was a rightious kill. There is very little chance of a reported complaint being 'lost'.

With regard to incidents like Forrest Gate, we have very little information on why the raid was carried out - IIRC the Met didn't even say what they there for, the media presumed terrorism. It is very inappropriate for us to second guess the decision making process without the information available to the police at the time.

I think it needs to be recognised that the police do what is a challenging and difficult job that many of us couldn't or wouldn't do. Yes, it is easy to find incidences where the police have failed, it is possible to find incidences where the police have failed through one persons' deliberate actions. But to tar every member of every force with the same brush is ill-informed and prejudiced and does nothing to protect society.

For example, "Aren't muslims terrorists?"

Reply 31

yawn

Howard

The Police are bent. I wouldn't trust any copper as far as I could throw him. Once a pig, always a pig. Never let your guard down and delude yourself that the copper you drink with on a Saturday night is a friend. He'll sell you down the river without batting an eyelid.

Can I take it that the police inspire no confidence in you then, Howie? :wink:

You sound very mich like an 'old lag' - have you ever done 'porridge'?

Reply 32

yawn

Can I take it that the police inspire no confidence in you then, Howie? :wink:

You sound very mich like an 'old lag' - have you ever done 'porridge'?

No, but I have enough experience of these people not to trust them.

Reply 33

yawn

Howard

No, but I have enough experience of these people not to trust them.

Really!

...and you, a potential man of the cloth.

It reminds me of that old black and white movie with Burt Lancaster playing the part of the reformed preacher - what was it called now?

Reply 34

_jackofdiamonds

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Loosely related;

"A policeman who drove at 159mph on a motorway has been found guilty of dangerous driving and given an absolute discharge.

But despite his "eye watering" speeds the judge at Ludlow Magistrates' Court gave Pc Milton an absolute discharge.

District Judge Peter Wallis said the 38-year-old West Mercia Police officer had "suffered enough" with two-and-a-half years of court proceedings."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/shropshire/5284962.stm

You reckon Joe Bloggs off of the street would have got off so lightly?

Reply 35

yawn

I think we all know that Joe Bloggs would not have got off so lightly, unless he was Princess Anne or someone similar.

Reply 36

Renal

Howard

No, but I have enough experience of these people not to trust them.

My experience, fairly varied as it happens, is the exact opposite.

See how annecdotal evidence works?

Reply 37

Renal

_jackofdiamonds

You reckon Joe Bloggs off of the street would have got off so lightly?

Do you think Joe Bloggs would have had the excuse?

If Joe Bloggs could have explained why he was driving at 159mph, then maybe he would have been let off.

I'm not saying that it was right, it certainly wasn't legal, but the policeman in question had a fairly valid reason to do it. I for one would not like to see a policeman learning how to handle a high powered car at speed when it's 'for real'.

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