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Original post by AllyTee
Haha, I guess so :tongue: I went to an "Alpha Course" for an evangelical church once out of curiosity, got so terrified I never went again :tongue:

I've never had a missionary knock on my door, though we live in the suburbs so maybe that's why :biggrin:

A suit sounds cool! Are you a missionary/planning to be one?


Trust me, there will be missionaries in your town or very near! They're everywhere. I will likely never serve a mission, because it's a very formal process - You have to be between the ages of 18-25, you get sent somewhere in the world for 18 months to two years and can have hardly any contact with your family. As I'm the only Mormon in my family it just wouldn't go down well! But for those who are raised in Mormon families, it's seen as an important right of passage. :smile:

Retired married couples also can serve missions though, so who knows, maybe I will one day haha!
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Original post by RowanB
Trust me, there will be missionaries in your town or very near! They're everywhere. I will likely never serve a mission, because it's a very formal process - You have to be between the ages of 18-25, you get sent somewhere in the world for 18 months to a two years and can have hardly any contact with your family. As I'm the only Mormon in my family it just wouldn't go down well! But for those who are raised in Mormon families, it's seen as an important right of passage. :smile:

Retired married couples also can serve missions though, so who knows, maybe I will one day haha!


Actually, yeah, you're probably right - I tend to not spot anyone other than the Jehovah's Witnesses, though, as they're practically on every street corner in the city centre :tongue:

Why can't you have any contact with your family? That doesn't seem fair :frown:

That sounds cool! Do the couple get to be missionaries together, presumably? :biggrin:
Original post by AllyTee
Actually, yeah, you're probably right - I tend to not spot anyone other than the Jehovah's Witnesses, though, as they're practically on every street corner in the city centre :tongue:

Why can't you have any contact with your family? That doesn't seem fair :frown:

That sounds cool! Do the couple get to be missionaries together, presumably? :biggrin:


You can email your family once a week, and get a phone call on Christmas and mothers day. It's because you're meant to sacrifice two years of your life entirely focusing on doing God's work, with no distractions. Like I said, for Mormon families, its scarcely an issue because it's seen as such a rite of passage and an honor to serve. For people in circumstances like mine though, it's not really a realistic option!

And yeah, you serve together. That's something I would love to do some day!
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Original post by RowanB
You can email your family once a week, and get a phone call on Christmas and mothers day. It's because you're meant to sacrifice two years of your life entirely focusing on doing God's work, with no distractions. Like I said, for Mormon families, its scarcely an issue because it's seen as such a rite of passage and an honor to serve. For people in circumstances like mine though, it's not really a realistic option!

And yeah, you serve together. That's something I would love to do some day!


I don't see how Skyping them or calling them sometimes would be so bad - I mean, it's no different from taking time out to exercise or socialise outside church isn't it? Each to their own though :smile:

How did your family react to your becoming a Mormon? (Sorry, just curious - apologies if this is too personal a question!)

That must be nice. At the evangelical church I went too, there was a Christian married couple running the course. Religious couples always seem unbelievably close :tongue:
Original post by AllyTee
I don't see how Skyping them or calling them sometimes would be so bad - I mean, it's no different from taking time out to exercise or socialise outside church isn't it? Each to their own though :smile:

How did your family react to your becoming a Mormon? (Sorry, just curious - apologies if this is too personal a question!)

That must be nice. At the evangelical church I went too, there was a Christian married couple running the course. Religious couples always seem unbelievably close :tongue:


Well, missonaries are actually really restricted to what sports and things they can do and as for socalizing outside of church matters and trying to get people interested...It just doesn't happen, :tongue: It's more lenient for retired couples though!

My family didn't mind. They're happy if I am. :smile:
I was sort of thinking about this thread while sat in Church on Sunday. The first Sunday of a month in the LDS church is what's know as a "testimony meeting". This is where, instead of the usual Sunday meeting where there will be topics discussed, anyone who wants to can share their testimony of why they believe the church is true.

It got me thinking why I'm here, in THIS church and not somewhere else. I thought about this thread and how I've answered countless questions on deep doctrine and on petty matters. And I think some context is needed.

Having been a member a while now there are some things I know now. I truely believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. I believe the church was restored through Joseph Smith, who I believe was a prophet. I believe that we have a prophet on earth, Thomas S Monson. I believe he can recieve revelation from God. But I didn't ALWAYS have such strong faith in these things...Not the details. But there are some things I've always believed, even if I didn't know what it meant. And those are:

I believe God would want ALL his children to hear his Gospel, regardless of what continent they live on, what time period and what the needs of the world are. I believe he has ways of reaching us all, whether it's through the BoM,yet more scripture we don't know about yet, or personal revelation.
I believe our souls are eternal, that we have, and will always, exist, and that there's a reason that we have this earthly life.

I believe God loves his children so much and wants us to live the best lives we can, that he knows we need guidance, that he wouldn't send prophets in Biblical times and then close the Heavens. He loves us too much to leave us entirely alone and that is why he sends prophets.

I believe God's doctrine is pure and never changes, but that He gives us the context and guidance we need at any time while on Earth as society and history changes.

I do not believe God would punish us for questioning, or send us to eternal suffering because we can't say for certain He is real. I believe that he gave us agency for a reason. I believe that in the end, everything will work out - for EVERYONE.

I believe families are forever, that marriage is eternal, that we were with our family before we came to earth and we will be with them after.

THAT is why I'm Mormon. :smile:
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Was there any Prophets between Jesus and Joseph Smith? What did they do?
honestly read the thread title as "I'm a MORON"

well ..oops
Original post by RoyalBlue7
Was there any Prophets between Jesus and Joseph Smith? What did they do?


No, after the apostles were all killed, the world fell into apostasy. (Hence why we talk about the church/gospel being restored.) It was much like the world was before Jesus came.
Original post by Super Cicero
Not according to your Book of Mormon.

2 Nephi 1:8 "And behold, it is wisdom that this land should be kept as yet from the knowledge of other nations".

I want to ask - do you believe that Jesus is Lord, that He is God, that He has eternally existed, that He is worthy of worship, and that salvation comes by grace through faith in Christ alone?


I don't see how that says that there were no natives there...Have you READ the BoM. It TALKS about other "tribes".

I believe salvation comes through faith in Christ. But He is not God. I don't believe in the trinity.
Original post by Super Cicero
Isaiah 9:6 - "For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God".

2 Peter 1:1 - "our God and Savior Jesus Christ”

John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God... 1:14 - And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us,

John 10:30-31 - "Jesus answered them, “I and My Father are one.” Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him" (the Jews did this because they knew He was claiming to be God".

John 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”

1 Timothy 3:16 - And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh

Furthermore, there are many times in the Gospels when people worship Jesus. I can list them if you want me to.

The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus is God. Romans 10:9 says 'If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved'. If you deny that Jesus is God, then you are not saved.


I can list scripture if you like, that makes it clear they are NOT one. God, Christ and the holy spirit are separate entities, but ONE IN PURPOSE, which is where so much confusion in interpreting the Bible comes in. LDS are not the only denomination that reject the trinity, either, though we also have the BoM etc that clarifies the Bible and make it all pretty clear as to the nature of the "trinity". You might want to look here: http://en.fairmormon.org/Mormonism_and_the_nature_of_God/Trinity/Nicene_creed
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Original post by Super Cicero
Unlike the Bible, which all external evidence supports, there is no external evidence that supports the Book of Mormon. This is not surprising given the fact that Joseph Smith was a convicted con man, and the whole Book of Abraham thing indisputably proves he was a false prophet. Have a read of this: http://www.exmormon.org/whyileft.htm


No point quoting ex-mormon sites at me, I read a wealth of experiences, letter to a CES director, etc, before I was even baptized. =)

You might want to explore the fairmormon site, because Joseph Smith's run in with the law, book of Abraham etc are all covered very throughout. Namely: http://en.fairmormon.org/Joseph_Smith/Legal_issues
http://en.fairmormon.org/Book_of_Abraham

Also there is topics on said site about the historical validity of BoM, which disputes a lot of claims people like you have, though, honestly, for what it's worth, if you think external evidence is a reason to choose a religious belief, you and I have very different ideas of faith. :smile:
Original post by Super Cicero
I don't base my Christian faith on external evidence - I walk by faith and not by sight.

The primary reason why I believe Joseph Smith was a false prophet was because his teachings disagree with the Bible. Though I believe that new revelation ceased at the end of the apostolic age so there couldn't be a new massive load of revelation suddenly cropping up later anyway.


Well, you commented on the external evidence of the Bible vs The Book Of Mormon so obviously you'll see why I would think we have different views on it.

They are not Smith's teaching, but God's And part of the reason I love the Book of Mormon is how it clarifies the Bible - There is nothing in the BoM that contradicts anything in the Bible, not within context. It simply clarifies and makes clear things that have been mis-interpreted and argued about for years. That's why God bought forth the BoM during this time - to clarify so many things people were unsure about because they had been lost in translation or otherwise. :smile:

Revelation DID end after the time of the apostles. But only because the world fell into apostasy. God bought it forth again when the world was ready. I honestly cannot ever believe God would deny guidance and revelation to a world who needs it, and that is why I cannot identify with most other Christian denominations.
Original post by RowanB
No, after the apostles were all killed, the world fell into apostasy. (Hence why we talk about the church/gospel being restored.) It was much like the world was before Jesus came.


SO why wasn't Joseph Smith or some other Prophet sent to us earlier from God? Why such a long gap?

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